Notes from the Times API page:

Pagination Use the offset query parameter to paginate thru the results, 25 comments at a time. Use offset=0 to get the first 25 comments, offset=25 to get the next 25 comments, …

The url.json endpoint returns top-level comments and the first three replies. The totalParentCommentsFound field has the total number of top-level comments. Use that to determine how many comments you need to paginate thru.

In the comment node, the replyCount indicates how many replies there are to that top-level comment. If there are more than three, use the replies.json endpoint, the comment sequence and offset query parameter to paginate thru replies, 25 at a time.

You can sort the comment list by newest first, oldest first, or comments with most reader recommendations first (sort=newest, oldest, or reader).

Responses The Community API is RESTful. It uses response codes to indicate the API status (200 - OK, 401 - invalid key, 429 - rate limit reached, …).

I’m only going to focus on the comments, not their replies here, since they don’t belong in the same table. I’ve included a function below for getting replies, using the commentID of the comment it replies to, if future development is desired.

This routine begins with a NYT-provided api key, and uses it to query the community API for reader comments on articles.
baseUrl <- 'https://api.nytimes.com/svc/community/v3/user-content/'
comments <- 'url.json?api-key='
replies <- 'replies.json?api-key='

getComments <- function(strURL, comments_endpoint, offset=0) {
  resp <- GET(paste(baseUrl, comments_endpoint, apikey, sep=''),
           query = list(offset = offset, url = strURL))
  content(resp, "parsed")
}
getReplies <- function(strURL, replies_endpoint, commentID, offset=0){
  resp <- GET(paste(baseUrl, replies_endpoint, apikey, sep=''),
              query = list(offset = offset, url = strURL,
                           commentSequence = commID))
  content(resp, "parsed")
}
commentFrame <- function(articleURL) {
  # build a frame for the first page of results, if possible
  c <- getComments(articleURL, comments)
  # "upper level fail", for unspecified reasons
  if (is.character(c)) {
    print("API call failed")
    return()
  }
  # "lower level fail", where at least there's some debugging help
  if (c$status != "OK") {
    print(c$errorDetails)
    print('Offset was set to 0') # to help with debugging
    return()
  }
  feats <- c('commentID', 'userID', 'userDisplayName', 'userLocation',
             'commentBody', 'createDate', 'recommendations', 
             'replyCount', 'editorsSelection', 'isAnonymous')
  # append all comments here, one by one
  frame <- data.frame()
  for (comm in c$results$comments) {
    frame <- rbind(frame, comm[feats])
  }
  # now add all the rest of the available pages
  pagemax <- 25 # API limit per page
  total_pages <- ceiling(c$results$totalParentCommentsFound / pagemax)
  if (total_pages < 2) {return(frame)}
  
  for (p in 2:total_pages) {
    Sys.sleep(6) # API limit is 10 calls per minute
    c <- getComments(articleURL, comments, offset = (p-1) * 25)
    if (c$status != "OK") {
      print(c$errorDetails)
      cat('Offset was set to ', (p-1) * 25) # to help with debugging
      break
    }
    for (comm in c$results$comments) {
      frame <- rbind(frame, comm[feats])
    }
  }
  frame
}

Now use the above routine to build a frame of comments. Needless to say, any headline that mentions racism will draw a lot of comments, so I’ll demonstrate the routine using a recent story about “white fears” in towns where capitol rioters came from.

whiteFearsURL <- 'https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/us/politics/capitol-riot-study.html'
whiteDF <- commentFrame(whiteFearsURL)
whiteDF %>%
  kbl() %>%
  kable_material_dark()
commentID userID userDisplayName userLocation commentBody createDate recommendations replyCount editorsSelection isAnonymous
112328315 3608300 Bill D. New Jersey

If these folks would look at increases in diversity as an opportunity to practice leadership and mentoring, things would go a lot smoother.

Every “catastrophe” is an opportunity in disguise.
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112328894 134979373 pappy west Not fear of losing out, but I believe one of the greatest fears for those whites who are not educated is waking up one morning and not recognizing the ones who are now firmly in charge. 1617806015 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112329772 19364327 John Bucks, PA

This was an insurrection, not a protest. While it is necessary to put these people on trial, things will not end until those responsible are held accountable: Donald Trump Rudy Giuliani for the meritless lawsuits Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, Tommy Tuberville, Roger Marshall, John Kennedy, Cindy Hyde-Smith 121 House Republicans Fox News, et al

Trump’s claims of election fraud were false. They were always false, and these people, who all knew they were lies kept promoting these lies.

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
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112330329 58135798 Mack New England Over and over again, I read comments that contend that “these people” are afraid of losing out to people who don’t look like them. Balderdash. They fear “losing out” to people who don’t think like them. They fear losing out to Gay people who look like them, and to Liberals who look like them too. But, “they” aren’t just white, there were black and brown and yellow sprinkled in with the whites at the Capitol, TEA Party, and Trump rallies who also afraid of losing out to gays, Liberals, atheists, etc.. 1617809305 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112330514 73539559 Lucy Cooke California

“Mr. Pape, whose career had mostly been focused on international terrorism, used that approach after the Sept. 11 attacks when he created a database of suicide bombers from around the world. His research led to a remarkable discovery: Most of the bombers were secular, not religious, and had killed themselves not out of zealotry, but rather in response to military occupations.”

And the US response to terrorism has been more military occupations… and the NYT and the entire Establishment kept telling us “suckers” that those Muslim extremists hated us for our freedoms. No wonder so many, have so little trust in the government, the Establishment and its media.

The obliviousness of the Democratic and Republican Establishment and their usual self interested stupidity has created the US immigration problem.

Foreign born population in the US was 9.6 million in 1970, and 41.3 million in 2013, <a href=“https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2015/09/28/chapter-5-u-s-foreign-born-population-trends” target="_blank">https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2015/09/28/chapter-5-u-s-foreign-born-population-trends</a>/ That was a HUGE change in US demographics. Immigrants/refugees did take American jobs and lower wages, despite Democratic Party mythology to the contrary. I know Trump voters who intensely dislike the flood of illegal immigrants, but like and respect individual immigrants.

Cheap labor made a lot of Democrats and Republicans wealthy, so illegal immigration was tolerated, while the middle class got poorer.

Biden’s bold, Sanders inspired policies may calm the anger and lessen the despair.
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112329943 55849884 d’Aroborville N. America Demographers foresaw these tensions decades ago. 1617808383 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112326976 17105 Susan New England

In order to fully comprehend this pronlem - and why it won’t go away anytime soon - we must look to Apartheid in South Africa and to the Reptilian part of our brain.

White Supremacy is driven by fear. But the deepest fear of all lies in our emotion-driven flight or fight center.

Whites made up 1 or 2% of the Sourh African population, but they ruled - absolutely - 100% of it. Those of us old enough to remember Apartheid know how cruel and merciless it was. Nelson Mandela and tbousands upon thousands more suffered for decades under its total oppression.

It took activists there and around the world decades and decades to finally end it. But given that they were ultimately bound to lose, what took Whites so long to accept inevitable reality?

The fact they were bound to lose. A seeming paradox, but really the fear hidden deep in their brains: When we lose and they win - THEY WILL DO TO US WHAT WE’VE DONE TO THEM.

They will do to US what we’ve done and are doing to them.

Terrifying. Unacceptable. Flight is impossible, so Fight is the only option.

Next time you hear a republican speak or kool-aid drinker comment here, put their words and ultimately useless deeds into context, and understand their subtext:

If we don’t stop them now, they will do to us what we’ve done to them.
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112328216 40842427 gc chicago the census bureu forcast the shift by race several decades ago…Reagan anyone? 1617804454 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112329393 111071438 Lynn T. Northern California I think Pape has hit the nail on the head. My mother is one of many who have been brought up believing the “Great Replacement” theory. An educated, wealthy, white woman, she voted for Trump despite my my family’s conversations in her presence about his white supremacist beliefs and megalomaniac behaviors. She is living in a bubble of white privilege that even her family cannot burst. She harbors great disdain for the poor; the darker their skin, the more she fears and despises them. She has always been upset about the influx of Latinos into California, saying they are taking over and abusing our health services. She is afraid they will break into her house to steal her possessions. She believes she has what they want, so Trump would protect her interests. 1617807092 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112330970 42787428 P Greider Los Angeles I have found that Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc. are not interested in destroying “white culture.” The biggest threat to “Euro-American” culture as well as a lot of other cultures is that people are not having children to pass it on to. The birth rate even among Hispanics has dropped precipitously. So if you are interested in protecting your culture you should be having children instead of storming the Capitol. And stop with the paranoia. Having grown up in 99% white suburbia outside Houston, I have been struck by how often I can share the same values and outlook as people who grew up in different cultures, different races and even different countries. 1617810859 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112328332 19105693 rixax Toronto

The article’s title says it all. “Fear”. That is what drives people who realize that their level of poverty or low paying hard work jobs are actually quite a few steps up from the reality of those seeking an equal opportunity to live, even at that level. And those people are born American. Claiming immigration is the problem is an easy cover for all of “those people”.

Don’t be afraid. It leads to acts that do not help.
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112329209 56770124 CH Indianapolis, Indiana What President Biden needs to do is find a way to convince the public that life in this country is not a zero-sum game, and that intentionally leaving some groups behind hurts us all. If we want to build a better nation, rather than nurse grudges, we all need to learn what is normally taught in preschool: share with others. 1617806690 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112329370 27831010 Londoner London

The key to an investigation of this type is to understand what drives these people - their feelings, their insecurities, their general level of understanding, their concepts of duty and fair play, and, perhaps most of all, their fears.

When there are this many people, and almost certainly five or ten times as many more who considered similar actions, outright condemnation achieves very little. It could well be counter-productive - just inciting deeper anger. It’s also important to see these people as real. As our neighbours, our relatives - to see in them deeper feelings of our own that we might have suppressed or forgotten.

It seems to me that this is report is good work. It seeks out genuine motives and could help to inspire programs that can bring these people back from the edge before Trump 2.0 sets them on some new and potentially deadly crusade.
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112328228 59612520 Gert Boel Brussels, Belgium The academic question this study asks is in some ways moot. Paranoid nativist schools of thought have, throughout history, intertwined with rising and falling economic fortunes. Those who stormed the Capitol are no doubt white supremacists, and at the same time wage stagnation and the decline of blue-collar employment is a real issue, which has a suffocating effect on those who lack the proper educational prospects to overcome it. In turn, some of those become genuinely inebriated with racist thoughts. The welfare state was a racially exclusionary institution, which at the same time prevented a return to 1930s barbarism. The Reaganite and neoliberal destruction of the labor union and welfare state did create a genuine vulnerability with certain people. I can only hope those institutions can be rebuilt on a more equitable and inclusionary basis, without requiring the same kind of catastrophe it needed the first time round for its inception. And I hope people learn to look at the true sources of their economic and social woes, and deal with them, instead of projecting envious hatred towards other groups. But then, hope is a cheap contribution to a debate like this. 1617804482 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112328907 85306808 RwB Upstate The demographics on this issue started about 50 years ago with a prediction that by 2040 , the number of blacks and whites will be approximately equal with the remaining approximately 20% percent becoming the “new” minority. Its strange that most people are only now becoming aware of this demographic shift. 1617806046 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112329170 57792555 susana guimard NYC Do we really need a study to understand the source of racist fear and contempt? Maybe we should study how to solve a very old problem. Enough talk, let us figure out how to become one America, the one that understands that we are multicultural, multilingual and is not necessary stuck on misinformation.
Our understanding of equality is confused at best. How can we arrive at equally plausible solution without complete information for all?
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112330137 99008493 AA Portland, Oregon So on the one hand, a big chunk of Americans are terrified that they’re being displaced by other races, and on the other hand, a whole movement is working desperately hard to racialize everything. Seems promising. 1617808852 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112328274 54072062 Tom California

"If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket.

Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you."

Lyndon Johnson
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112325330 73921874 Karen Fischer Island White people fear losing out to immigrants? Ironic given this is exactly what their white ancestors did to the Native Americans. 1617797112 7 0 FALSE FALSE
112327065 57426755 Julian Fernandez Dallas, Texas If you flew in a private plane to DC to storm the Capitol and overturn an election, how can you claim economic anxiety as the reason for your treason? 1617801809 11 0 FALSE FALSE
112327299 37460659 Bill St. Louis I’m baffled that Mr. Pape went into his research thinking it was anything but privilege and racism. Starting research with an open mind is necessary but the confederate flags and Trump’s whistle were the tell. 1617802330 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112327418 57945213 mary connecticut

Sad to say, we are still generations away from embracing the truth that we are all the same under this skin we wear.

“We are all brothers under the skin - and I, for one, would be willing to skin humanity to prove it.”

― Ayn Rand
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112327314 86725210 Not My Potus Ever VA

This is no surprise.

The rapidly changing US demographics are a key driver of the MAGA mindset.

The more enlightened are seeking ways to build on the strength of such a diverse country, as MAGA mindset is much more circumspect.
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112326349 42542710 Wolf Kirchmeir Blind River, Ontario Cruel irony: The ones who fear replacement themselves replaced indigenous populations. Maybe that’s (one of many reasons) why they fear it so: what you did to others, others may well do to you. And for exactly the same reasons. 1617799988 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112326320 75684432 Bruce Maier Shoreham, BY If you want to solve a problem, you need to understand it. Gut level emotional reactions are not facts, but feelings. 1617799910 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112325769 29319747 Alexander Beal Lansing, MI In his focus groups, Stanley Greenberg also heard the same words from previously non-voting whites, that they feel they are being replaced. Racism is the one and only thing that will motivate them to vote. Think about that. 1617798481 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112324727 71044272 awa houston,tx In a democracy based on equal rights and equal protection under the law, white privilege is illegitimate. It is theft of rights and opportunities of others. It should no longer be tolerated or assumed to be a “normal” state of being. 1617794689 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112323512 71291101 Dirkle Denver

“They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites”

Don’t know if I agree with that. I remember guys outed & some arrested after Charlottesville were hardly even “middle-class.” They were fired from their “prestigious” jobs at hot dog stands, etc. I don’t know how some of them even came up with the money to get there.

I’m sure there were “middle-class” rioters at the Capitol, but per the quote, I get the impression most of them are LOW-to-middle class. I know trump thinks they dress like it. =D
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112325369 45222845 martin albany, ny Everything, but everything has to be about race now. I thought we had a mob at the Capitol, supposedly incited by the President, invading the chamber to stop what they thought was a crooked or stolen election. (The issue was a rather arcane argument, which failed in various courts, that the voting or elector process in certain states was illegal for a variety of far-fetched reasons.). The mob broke in, hurt some people, trashed some rooms like teen-aged vandals, and promptly walked out, having achieved nothing. It wasn’t a coup d’etat: they didn’t even occupy the building with a list of demands as college protesters do. It was definitely a riot, but the term insurrection seems excessive. “Treason” seems silly. The racial aspect of this seems specious and tenuous. Simply connecting them to certain Zip codes is not very elucidating. But since the Left views everything through the lens of race, this is what we get. 1617797211 2 2 FALSE FALSE
112324905 41855254 usa999 Portland, OR

Having worked with and around immigrants for more than 50 years I have yet to see one “take a job from an American”. But I have seen numerous employers displace Americans in favor of immigrants because the latter work harder, are more readily exploited, and are more easily bullied. The “taking jobs” refrain is a way to place the blame on the immigrant not the boss. If Republicans in Congress want to take a giant step toward reducing immigration they will propose and fund a special ICE detachment that does nothing but arrest people employing immigrants who do not have documents with successful prosecution of employers resulting in jail time and loss of the property or business that employed them. Stop beating up on immigrants and go after the real villians.

I am a Republican and I approve of this message.
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112324857 40300692 Jon Harrison Poultney, VT But does this tell the whole story? What about the people who voted for Obama and then switched to Trump? The small group of people who actually stormed the Capitol aren’t necessarily representative of the larger MAGA movement. 1617795260 1 1 FALSE FALSE
112324402 56208553 Adam Fort Myers I truly believe that the demonstrations by Hispanics that accompanied attempts to protect the Dreamers was a turning point in the United States. The mainstream media was reporting that Hispanics would become the dominant race in the United States and white people became threatened that they would become a minority and have reacted in fear and racism. I do not think this attitude will change. 1617792992 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112324104 47091853 ggallo Middletown, NY This is so simple. When things around you are changing and you are not part of that change, … it ain’t a good feeling. 1617790390 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112324091 4501886 Larry Lundgren Sweden

As a Times reader and comment writer who often writes that the US Census Bureau should end classifying Americans by so-called race or ethnicity - neither scientific or sound - I expect that someone may reply to this comment to say:

"Larry, how could this study have been made if people were not classified by race and ethnicity?

That would be a very reasonable question and I note that when the former Census Bureau Director proposed ending the use of the present system, he did not deal with the question that perhaps a reader will pose for me.

Jews in America are classified as white, so the racism directed at them is not based on so-called skin color.

Most important about the Pape study is that the United States is still as far from studying domestic terrorism potential as the Norwegian government was when it did not worry about Anders Behring Breivik, leaving him free to set off a bomb in Oslo and then continue to an island where he killed at least 70 people.

The participants in the January 6 attack show a group of candidates for a Breivik type attack - only a matter of time.

Only-NeverInSweden.blogspot.com Citizen US SE
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112324055 65143923 Wim Roffel Netherlands

The article confuses cause and effect. These towns are white flight towns. So the successful whites are leaving and most of those remaining do so because they can’t afford to leave and thus are stuck.

In addition they face the common disadvantages of living in an area that is becoming poorer and more diverse: less social cohesion and a lower quality of governance. In such circumstances it is easy to conclude that minorities are the problem.
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112324477 37430296 Rosemary Galette Atlanta, GA The title of this article is ambiguous in ascribing motive to the insurrectionists as “the fear of losing in out.” One could think losing out means some struggle with economic climbing of the social ladder. But this is not what the analysis shows. The article describes analysis showing middle- and upper-middle class people with regressive, racial motives and no restrictions on using violence. This is why it was frightening to watch them attack the Capital Building, see them scaling the walls, breaking windows, prowling through the Rotunda, posing with their weapons. These were not people who came for a conversation about fairness and a bipartisan way forward. These weren’t people who could be appeased with better education or working opportunities. These were people who fear the diversity of a modern country. They will not be reasoned with, because they thriving off of the misinformation and emotional propaganda from some politicians and media outlets. This is not about a fair shake for the white working class. Being “left behind” for these people means losing power to people who do not look like them, and to women who express their equality and their leadership. The title of the article suggests “losing out” is something that could be assuaged; the insurrectionists are anti-government and not afraid to use violence to defend their power in preventing a fairer world. 1617793497 16 0 FALSE FALSE
112324308 76372713 ASPruyn California - Somewhere left of center

It is amazing to think that people who denigrate and oppress people based on their personal notions of ethnicity expect that those denigrated would want to wholeheartedly adopt the culture of the people that denigrate them.

The US is dotted with “Little Italy”s, “Chinatown”s, “Japantown”s, discreet concentrations of people from Latin America divided by country of origination, similar ones for Eastern Europeans. Many of these are there because the dominant ethnicity (mostly Northern European) likely restricted them by law and culture to those sections through covenants and other ways. Add into all of this the idea that if you live on such margins, you are more likely to see your children die while still young, so larger families tend to be more prevalent among them. Especially when your care when you are old will depend on your surviving children.

And so, members of the dominant ethnicity might see the results of all of this and concoct “The Great Replacement” theory. A theory that does not match reality.

Let’s face it folks, the idea of America being “the great melting pot” is a fable we made up and only existed for those who could pass as the dominant ethnicity.
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112323583 38157208 Patrick Australia I greatly fear a whole crowd of people wearing weird head wear, carefully picking their way along the velvet ropes of the Capitol and reaching the inner sanctums of power. I am afraid that some of them will actually pray before the speaker’s chair, thus defiling a secular space. Some may lounge around, haughtily exclaiming their devious plans, while waving the flags of whatever usurper has lead them on. How much of this can America take? It seems that America can take very little. 1617777350 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112323997 49134708 alformaetxea Oaxaca Joe Biden says that the inmigrants could change the elections in Georgia… It´s the same that it’s happening in Spain for example, with 7 millions inmigrants, (15% of total population, 40% in some areas or slums of big cities), changing absolutely the results of polling. That’s the reason than left wing parties support masive inmigration without any kind of control… And this is a fact… 1617788522 0 1 FALSE FALSE
112323693 90014007 Susan San Diego, Ca Many years ago, my husband’s fifteen year-old mixed-race (black/white) cousin came to visit from the Netherlands. We took her to Yosemite, and one side trip was to Mariposa Grove, where we were standing in line to ride the tram through the woods. As we were chatting happily, I happened to notice one of the tram attendants, a middle-aged white woman, glaring at us. I met her gaze, but she only intensified her stare. Then our cousin saw it as well—we didn’t have to say anything, because all of us knew her meaning. But our cousin was undeterred. Happy, loving girl that she is, she grabbed me, hugging me and kissing me on the cheek. I returned the favor and looked back at the woman, whose mouth had dropped, and whose eyes were rolling in the back of her head. Whenever I think that life has been unfair, I am reminded of this incident. I am reminded that POC in the US can hardly go a day without experiencing such slights, and I imagine how demoralizing and demeaning it must be. And yet the vast majority do not let it destroy them. It is humbling. 1617780773 15 0 FALSE FALSE
112323733 68912238 Erica Chan Hong Kong It is nature that people congregate with their own kind. They share similar cultural background, language, worldview and customs. They are also better to compete for limited resources against other groups. The inclusiveness advocated by liberals is more intellectual than natural. Even people who preach inclusiveness have moments when their true nature shines through. This is a natural defense mechanism, to ensure the survival of the race, and conscious suppression is probably insufficient to completely eliminate these tendencies. It is not unlike sexual urge (being another mechanism of nature to ensure survival) breaking through religious or societal taboos. The US is an artificial country, built by immigrants from different racial and cultural backgrounds. It would take centuries of inter-marriages to dilute the difference and break down the barriers. Take China as an example. The great migration of the Northern tribes occurred during the Northern and Southern dynasties (420-589 CE), and it took centuries for these people to adopt Han Chinese customs. Even Black Americans, who have been in the country for the longest, have their own very distinct culture, even though mixed marriages have become more common and accepted than 50 years ago. Not until all ethnic characteristics (appearance, language, custom) become homogenised would true integration occur, and this has nothing to do with liberal or conservative attitudes. 1617782443 4 2 FALSE FALSE
112323544 3940727 Kristen UK Interesting. They controlled for a bunch of factors, but did they also consider that Jan 6 was the vote certification date? That it may have been widely seen as the last chance - the big moment - to stop Biden from being confirmed as the winner of the election? I’d have thought that that fact would at least partly explain why many people turned out. It wasn’t just a usual protest, it was the big one. People want to be a part of history, if they think it’s going to be a momentous event. 1617776534 7 0 FALSE FALSE
112323165 81744208 Daoshan Sun Charlotte Most of those people have already lost out to globalization and other things. Many of them were once supporters of democrats. They just try to keep their meager means of livelihood, not billion dollar inheritances. But because they are white, they no longer deserve democrats’ sympathy. Moreover, they even lost the right to fight for their means of living a pretty basic life? Have any of the thinkers in the media thought about what would happen when people lost means of living? 1617770351 3 2 FALSE FALSE
112323366 66207720 Joseph Ross Mayhew Timberlea, Nova Scotia Perhaps i’m a voice crying in the wilderness here, but we have to start a generations-long process of encouraging parents to teach their children the indisputable and scientifically backed truth that underneath the skin and other superficial differences, WE ARE ALL THE SAME!!!! No ethnic (the term “race” is completely obsolete: it doesn’t apply to humans in a genetic sense, even a tiny bit) group or their culture, is inherently superior to any other: we are all just human beings, making our way through life as best as we can - and we are all pretty much the same in all the ways that truly count. 1617773329 15 0 FALSE FALSE
112323353 58815834 Joe Wisconsin So lucky for the world that American racism wasn’t as potent as simple greed. If wealthy whites hadn’t gutted poor whites for decades, they’d have easily birthed something more than an anti-movement on 1/6. The self fulfilling prophecy of replacement obsession fools drove the normal bystanders to be better humans. GOP good old boys become far right terrorists and now find themselves headed to prison. Thank you God for your grace there was probably no other way to expose and resolve this evil force. 1617773131 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112323282 52422067 Jess New York Having just returned from Montana and Idaho I can attest that Trump has considerable support among the rural poor. Seeing confederate flags flying in Idaho was even more shocking. There was certainly no threat of being replaced as the towns were almost entirely white. That’s not to say that just because a person flies the flag means they favor insurrection perhaps they just liked the swagger or the tough talk on China or conservatives judges. Nonetheless it was alarming and somewhat perplexing to witness. 1617771901 13 1 FALSE FALSE
112322928 46160440 Thrasher DC

What happens when the minorities in America become convinced that nothing in White America can restrain their right to agency and the pursuit of life , liberty and happiness

This article continues to anchor Whites in America as the more prominent variable in the trajectory of America

This article continues to insert and assume that the narrative of Whites in America matter more and are superior to the reality of state of America going forward

Sorry but this take no longer has validity nor currency in America, What is unfolding in America has little to do with the trajectory of Whites in America

The focus of this article is obsolete and a red herring

BLM
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112322939 30906544 GRH New England

And, fascinating, that, of course, in spite of Mr. Pape’s finding regarding the 9/11 terrorists mostly not being religious fanatics but instead acting in response to military occupations, the mainstream of the Democratic Party, going back at least to Hillary and Biden’s votes in favor of the Iraq War, have consistently doubled and tripled down on military Keynesianism uber alles and more or less continuing the Bush-Cheney policies of neo-con, intervention-first regime change.

Obama talked the talk in 2008, like he was going to end the wars, convincing millions of us, this voter included, to vote for him (and again, in 2012, given Romney, what other alternative) but instead Obama continued the Bush-Cheney wars his entire 8 years, with some troop variations. Could have wound the wars down during his 2nd term, providing Kurdish allies & others plenty of advance notice and special refugee status or via new refugee conventions with Europe; and in Afghanistan, since Osama Bin Laden had already been eliminated in the 1st term.

Instead, continued them and expanded to new fronts that, like Iraq, had nothing to do with 9/11 and never attacked US soil (e.g., Syria, Libya, Yemen, Ukraine, Honduras, etc.) It’s just intervene, intervene, intervene. Trillions of tax dollars to support continuing military occupations that motivated the 9/11 terrorists. Peter Beinart said it well in Atlantic article last summer: Biden has zero intention of touching the military-industrial complex.
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112322615 68992690 Harvey Sparks California Caste, by Isabel Wilkerson, is pretty much all you need to know on this subject. 1617764600 7 0 FALSE FALSE
112322868 23693325 Zipora NJ This is not peculiar to American history alone. Wherever there has been a “foreign group” migrating into “someone else’s” country or land these kinds of resentments become the basis of “resistance movements”. Why should America be different from a social-psychological standpoint than most of the world, other than its original republican ideals from the late 1700’s which were split-minded in actual law and practice? Reconstruction was to make America a bi-racial and ethnic society. Multi-ethnic and religious immigration is making America multi cultural against a “traditional” white population, many of whose ancestors were “outcasts” at one time too. 1617767175 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112322732 99821119 Hair Furor Newport Fascism has been with us since the Industrial Revolution. We’ve seen before what happens when we let it erupt. Time to call it what it is. 1617765678 10 0 FALSE FALSE
112322790 46160440 Thrasher DC

Seasoned Black and Brown activists have for years writing and lecturing about the undercurrent of social unrest in America at its core is the deep rooted racial angst in White America to the presence and impact of Black and Brown Americans in the daily lives of Whites in America

I expect more social and political tension , anxiety and animosity in America that has racial foundations

BLM
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112322819 63895549 Sarah Seattle

Both sides of my family came to this continent in the early 1600’s bearing the colonialist notion of superiority to other races and the right to take whatever was before them. In short order one side of the family decided to possess people and did so until they were required to stop in the 1860’s. In 1941 my mother was taught in college (a college town five miles from Appomattox) that other races were biologically inferior. She believed it until (to her credit) she realized she’d been taught wrong.

This country was founded as a colonial outpost whose underlying principles espoused liberty and independence but whose racist beliefs, policies and practices are a deep foundation. To rid ourselves of this chronic national illness we have to work intelligently, diligently, fiercely and lifelong.
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112322695 17261625 Edward B. Blau Wisconsin In central Wisconsin the death rate is a multiple of the birth rate, the working age population has significantly decreased and the median age has increased. If it were not for an influx of Hispanics the meat packing plants and the large dairy farms would be hard pressed to keep operating. Young people who leave for a college education rarely come back. Church attendance at main stream religions is decreasing while evangelical churches spring up everywhere. All of this has been very unsettling to people who for all of their lives thought that nothing would affect their towns and their personal status. This is the decreasing demographic that vote Republican but love Trump. I do not foresee how there is anything that government can do to reverse the population drain. 1617765373 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112322621 33160082 David Godinez Kansas City, MO All of human history turns on a struggle for power, between family groups, tribes, races, religions, nation-states, and so on. The January 6th attack on the capitol was no different. In modern times in the US, this struggle is mostly represented by political combat in the legislatures and the executive offices of the states and the federal government, but it is still just a primal fight for control; the startling thing about the capitol breach was the reversion to primitive tactics, similar to what happens during riots on the street. People can be expected to object when they sense a loss of societal and cultural traction; the study discussed in this article is just a discovery of the obvious. 1617764688 13 0 FALSE FALSE
112322388 59661695 Jefferson Village New York The events of the past several months amounted with violence by an outgoing incompetent dictator. Trump the sore loser attempted to overturn election results, a violent mob assaulted the Capitol as Congress met to formalize his defeat, and lawmakers failed to hold the outgoing leader accountable for his reckless actions. The blind loyalty that ignores abuse of power and corruption by unaccountable leaders. I live in a town run by the most incompetent, corrupt Republicans who have no moral compass, and have put the past events under the rug or what the neighbor calls “the silent majority”. I will have to remind the local Republican party of their lack of diversity, lies, lack of decency, as they descend on my building complex and poll site like a bunch of pariahs. 1617763055 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112322329 64791510 4eyedbuzzard Ft Worth, TX Unlike the dinosaurs, these folks see the asteroid coming. As such they will resist to the end - but the result will be the same. It’s inevitable. 1617762720 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112321739 76999566 Joanne Colorado

Please stop including me–a white woman–under your umbrella demographic of “White People”.

I am absolutely not a part of this demographic, at least not by choice.

Yes, I’m a white woman, but one who has experienced a lifetime of discrimination and repression. “White People” is the last group on earth I want to be associated with.

Change the narrative to “Scared White Men Who Were Born on First and Think They Hit a Home Run” and I’m in complete agreement with Feuer’s assessment of why January 6th happened and what it means for us as a people moving forward.
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112321706 25937434 Raoule51 Columbus OH I remember during a 2016 Republican debate George Pataki brought up the “know nothings,” in response to a Trump comment. I was pleased and understood the reference. How precent that comment is. 1617759003 2 1 FALSE FALSE
112321568 58946176 Pnut The Dirty South What are they worried about ? That they will be treated just like everyone else ? or that they will be treated how they have treated others ? Growing up and living most of my life in the deep South , I see it all of the time. White guys always think that they ought to be in charge and listened to in every situation. From work to socializing. As if it’s the natural order of things . The " white guy is the boss " mentality is strong. They. get uncomfortable and mad when they aren’t in charge. 1617758180 26 2 FALSE FALSE
112321415 63953823 Erica Etelson CA I’ve read elsewhere that a majority of those arrested are facing financial crises–that doesn’t mean they’re poor by any means, but it does suggest a stress factor that may have played a contributing role. For example, the woman who was shot had a struggling pool cleaning company. Makes me wonder how many middle-class people fear slipping into poverty and how that makes them vulnerable to racist dog whistles. 1617757157 10 1 FALSE FALSE
112321520 12517901 SM Brooklyn

Going further with Mr. Pape’s data, I’d like to know more about these non-Hispanic white segments and the causes/effects of the population decreases.

Was it due to retirement? Layoffs? Work relocation? Did the counties’ populations remain stagnant? Did more immigrants move in and start their own businesses?

The more information we have, the better we can deprogram and educate these aggrieved bigots that “Others” are not out to get them.
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112321456 71803431 Fulton Cambridge

I’m in graduate school to become an elementary school teacher, and I believe that a lot of this has to do with how – over decades – we have treated education and topics that are “safe” for the classroom.

In addition to critical questions about how a society works to address the many shameful and unjust aspects of its history, this study makes me want to ask schools to focus more on the following: how we teach our elementary school students about politics and, even more importantly, civic engagement; the meaning of truth and fact and fallacy, and how to spot false equivalency; and how what is just, fair, or equitable is not always what those with power aim to uphold, and how those who work hardest are not often those rewarded for their labors.

The Little Red Hen would be my starting book for this curriculum.
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112321569 95443298 John moore Indiana This crazy thing is—they have it easier than anyone. Imagine if Black folks or Brown folks or Red folks went to the Capitol and acted a fool. What WOULDN’T the police do?!?! These domestic terrorists get over—hardly ANY (less than 300) of them got in trouble over what happened at the Capitol. Watch, watch what happens if the Floyd case goes left and Black folks take to the streets—watch what happens. We live in a pluralistic democracy—get with the program. 1617758191 13 0 FALSE FALSE
112321270 52851130 CT in CT CT White men have controlled the Western world, through weaponry, the military, and business connections for the last couple millennia. Colonial occupation of every continent but Antarctica, plus subjugation of women and anyone else outside of the White Male group have left the rest of us struggling to live within those confines. Now that some White Males sense that they will lose their control, they are filling bandwidth with threats and whining about what victims they are. You know what, guys? It’s time for you to “man up” and deal with the situation as responsible adults, not as temper tantrum-throwing five-year-olds. 1617756230 22 4 FALSE FALSE
112321269 61988003 Riverwoman Hamilton, Mi As long as the right wing can convince people to hate and fear minorities, they can keep pumping money into the pockets of the1% and picking the pockets of the rest of us. 1617756220 14 0 FALSE FALSE
112321213 23269197 Peggysmom New York Jan 6th came as a shock. While most readers of the Times are educated college graduates they don’t face job competition for their well paying jobs from immigrants like the uneducated peoples from these towns who have lost their way of life not only job wise but quality of life wise. Instead we just say welcome new immigrants and that’s just too bad for you whose families have been living here for generations. There has to be better understanding from both sides. 1617755876 8 3 FALSE FALSE
112321250 46990870 Kay Sieverding New Hampshire This polarization is one reason why it is important to maintain National Public Radio, Public Television, and similar programming and why we need Internet news access for everyone. My father was a liberal Democrat. He listened to National Public Radio and read the New Republic. He voted for Kennedy. Then when he was old he moved to Florida and didn’t find National Public Radio there. It was hard for him to read and change the station. His wife put Fox News on all the time and within just a few years he became much more conservative. One reason that this segment of voters aren’t reading the New York Times is the cost of subscribing. 1617756091 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112320969 37338608 Tanksleyd Philadelphia 1787- January 6th The Great Compromise This would all be so much easier Than maintaining Washington’s cherry tree If we admit America’s built 100% on the backs of Blacks 1617754062 2 1 FALSE FALSE
112321012 88130976 Penelope WA So basically, the Republicans failed on all their promises - 4 years of MAGA and a Tea Party Republican Congress for nearly all of the past 10 years and white guys got nothing. 1617754453 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112321048 64579547 Howard Herman Skokie, Illinois Donald Trump, Roger Stone, Ted Cruz and their assorted colleagues are all laughing at the Capitol rioters now. Mr. Trump and his group egged them on with lies and hate, telling them how America has turned against them. They whipped them up into a frenzy and then turned them loose to do Mr. Trump’s violent and illegal bidding. Now these rioters will face their day of reckoning with the American justice system. And Donald Trump and his group have left them to rot. Let this be another lesson to the Donald Trump supporters who have chosen to put their faith and trust in the hands of a maniacal despot. Perhaps now, many more of them will drop him as they will see him clearly as the phony and fraud he is. Only time will tell. 1617754771 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112320841 26418147 jim emerson Seattle

Wait: You’re attempting to draw conclusions from a random survey of “380 or so” people (a small sample of those present) who have so far been arrested, based on someone’s speculation that the areas in which they live “were awash in fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people in American politics and culture?”

How does one qualify and quantify the “awashness” of attitudes in a particular geographical location? And how does that translate into rioting, assault, and murder?

The white supremacist insurrectionists were quite open about their motives and their feelings (they wore them on their t-shirts and tattoos), but where’s the evidence that their grievances had anything to do with where they live? They are a cult, no different from any other cult, and they said before, during, and after their murderous rampage that they were doing exactly what their messiah had told them they must do to “save their country.”

Social media doesn’t care about what neighborhood you reside in. These were people from all over the place who made plans, in full view on popular commercial internet platforms, to converge on D.C. that day because their Grand Dragon promised it would be “wild” and it was their duty to make it so.
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112320891 90866742 Itsmanbearpig Guysimserial

Yes, people getting upset about losing unearned status is not good but understandable. Barbara Ehrenreich has called this the “psychological wage” of white people. It’s not right but the deal used to be that poor whites got to be poor and think they were better than non-whites. That has changed.

But before you point fingers. Ask yourself if you are opposed to change and losing status? If you live in a nice neighborhood, do you defended against change or new development based on character of the place? This is hyper localized MAGA i.e., my neighborhood was great when it was X. Are you a legacy or hoping your children will be a legacy at a university, profession, trade union? Are those spots going to your children and keeping someone else out? There are all kinds of unearned privilege and people doing status maintenance to maintain that privilege.

The first example here is far and away the worst but the difference in degree does not absolve the latter of their actions. 
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112321077 78986647 Meghan Colorado Fear of obsolescence among many white men has reached an all new high, and I’m afraid it’s going to get much worse before it gets better. I’m grateful for the more enlightened white male who isn’t threatened by the Other at every turn. 1617754999 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112321105 83006002 Uni USA At any large university now, the hiring goals for tenure track faculty and the acceptance goals for PhD students have been changed. Regardless of merit or credentials, BIPOC candidates are openly favored over most white females and always over white males. Look at any university faculty website. 1617755178 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112321125 17892624 William Donelson Memphis TN

Why, oh why, are we endlessly tormented by Conservatives? Answer here:

– Evolution Cannot See the Future –

… so it produces a wide range of behaviours and skills from birth for the best chance at some of the parents begetting successful offspring. It is a genetic gamble against good or bad times coming.

A billion years of evolution has created a spectrum of human, from insanely greedy through to hopelessly charitable.

During famine and bad times, the selfish and greedy are more likely to survive and pass on their (selfish) genes to the future.

During good times and plenty, the charitable build societies and civilisations freely and openly for the good of all, and in such a society most human’s genes (including the selfish) are likely to be passed on to the future.

We might not imagine having children with greedy personna, but if we were starving, we might have no choice.
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112320840 53326093 Susan San Francisco

I would like everyone to ask themself this question. What makes someone American? I suggest both political parties ask yourself this question and figure out the common denominator NOW! Let’s NOT start with the equal argument because we all know it’s who has money vs who doesn’t ? Equality is aspirational, not real. Human behavior is I have it, you don’t. Throughout the ages.

Not all whites have privilege. Education IS the great divide. For too many regardless of race, Education matters.

Can an immigrant bring their culture and language to the US and still respect others of different languages, races, faiths, sexual orientation? Ask Native Americans how well that went, my spouse is Native, not so much.

What makes a bigot? Regardless of race? Fear.

If the oppressed gains power, will they become the oppressor? Human behavior, says they will.

Common language helps in understanding each other and may be a good place to start. At least it opens the door to understanding. yes we need a common language!

Get real, the great melting pot does not melt. Like so many nations before, I’m not optimistic. Labels will not help, too easy to put a person in a box.

Human behavior is what it is…you can’t teach respect,civility unless you show it to each other. These days I see little of it. Communities are rarely coming together.

So what is the common denominator? Trust me the political corruption on both sides, will not answer this.

Perhaps start with your neighbor. It’s a start.
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112320958 63544487 Leading Edge Boomer Ever warmer and drier Southwest This essay, “Anger Distorts American Politics,” from 2016 characterizes, except for the last section, the situation in the US today. <a href=“http://www.drsunshine.org/20160302-GOPAngries.htm” target="_blank">http://www.drsunshine.org/20160302-GOPAngries.htm</a>; 1617753973 0 1 FALSE FALSE
112320853 75795790 Elissa F Buffalo To people who are privileged, loss of privilege doesn’t feel like equality; it feels like oppression. 1617752995 188 17 TRUE FALSE
112320928 52760545 Ann Manor Planet Earth White supremacists are afraid of the things that will be required to be successful. Immigrants do have advantages that white “native” US Citizens don’t have. 1) most of us speak fluently, at least two languages 2) we are happy with lower wages. I’m a Hispanic who speaks, as you can already tell, English, Spanish, and French, and have a Masters degree from my native country (cheaper and no student loan debt). Other immigrants know their native languages and learn English in months (thanks to the survival instinct) and are highly educated. In a way, yes, immigrants are taking Americans job, because we study and work very, very hard. In Los Angeles, CA I saw many American parents investing so their children taking a second language, ANY language that is not English. They know that one language is NOT enough in the future job market. It’s a Brave New World and if the US doesn’t invest in Education and new languages in the Public School curriculum, it is going to get ugly for Americans. You will no longer be competitive in a global market 1617753643 3 1 FALSE FALSE
112320651 54095408 grace thorsen syosset, ny why are we ‘really at the beginning’ of understanding this? The Oklahoma city bombing was forty years ago, or something, and even then white separatist groups wanted to attack the federal building WAY before Mcveh adopted their plans. This is old old white american predjudice.. We can’t keep being gobsmacked by it’s existence and tendency to violence.. 1617751481 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112320619 54619841 Mark Steg Fairview PA We hear much about White privilege; what about White decline? The “deaths of despair” are nearly all White men. 1617751223 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112320811 48128345 David Seattle Why did Mr. Pape think that “economic anxiety” would be the driving reason behind the attack? It’s been obvious since 2017 that racism is the driving core of Trumpism/Republicanism. 1617752670 7 0 FALSE FALSE
112320789 65385475 Susan Audrey Normal

I grew up on the South Side of Chicago in the 60’s. White Flight to escape from the Great Migration from (mostly) Mississippi was real. As the neighbors sold their houses, my father declared that we would not be moving. Unfortunately, I was accosted on the way home from junior high and my mother insisted we move further south, to a white neighborhood with a brutal black tenement neighborhood close by.

Throughout my childhood, my parents and I didn’t blame the African-Americans who moved in. Even though their southern accents were hard to understand (and vice versa, probably) we saw them as neighbors and later, friends. My father, 95 years old, to this day, attends church in Englewood neighborhood, by Zoom during the pandemic, but before 2020, in person.

The ignorance of the whites who fled Englewood was total. They didn’t know or care about the people who sought a place to live in a decent neighborhood. They only wanted to keep it White. My brothers were part of this racist feeling. They were beat up during the change and have never opened their hearts or minds to the goodness of black people.

Bottom line, Yes, many white people feel Poor Me, which is a shame. Black and brown people have suffered so much. Yes, there are whites who didn’t make it in life, but that is no reason to cater to them if they hurt other people through their ignorance and hate. Keep trying to educate, educate, educate.
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112320801 46323776 Patsy Arizona I wonder how we convince people to not fear people of color? How do we convince news networks that spread this fear to quit doing that? I believe it is in our human psyche to be fearful of others. I sure hope we can overcome this. The hate filled news organizations (Fox, NewsMax) could really help by changing their tone. And programs in schools to teach understanding of other people. 1617752604 7 2 FALSE FALSE
112320686 53196748 Global Charm British Columbia

Let’s also ask how many of these people were “Christians”, or otherwise influenced by magical beliefs.

When you look at enduring conflicts like Protestant versus Catholic in Northern Ireland, or Shiite versus Sunni in parts of the Muslim world, it’s pretty clear that skin color is not the main dividing factor.

Race-based analysis might be simple and plausible, but it’s often wrong. Its enduring appeal is a sad commentary on the maturity of American political analysis.
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112320655 63500513 JH New Haven, CT Indeed, white grievance undergirded by fear of cultural dislocation is the single most animating issue for the MAGA crowd … people who conflate national identity with whiteness. 1617751488 7 0 FALSE FALSE
112320753 76440468 Allen Phila

Well, I do understand this! If you did (or do right now) a survey of the very public regard for white people, especially white men, in nearly all media, there has been (and is, even more so now) a pronounced, even arched, wholesale, ongoing condemnation of white male-dom. This is the predictable pushback of the , bottom rung of the constructive majority, born of the primal drive to avoid being done in by a mislead and misinformed minority. Having said that , I believe that their action was treasonous, and deserves the full punitive brunt of the law.

You do not storm my Capitol!

Put that energy into a reasonable, full- throated centrist rebuttal of far-left extremism and challenge (effectively) the hypocritical logic and reverse discrimination–without succumbing to far-right nonsense and violence.
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112320647 73643782 kshizzle Chicago I grew up in one of these all white, rural communities. There is very much a bully mentality even among adults, and property damage is a common method of intimidation. Group think flourishes in areas like this, while high unemployment and boredom result in otherwise “reasonable” people cosplaying as their twisted version of what a patriot is… 1617751454 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112320717 68263038 R USA Exploitation of the fear of people not like them by demagogues and other opportunists is perhaps the biggest problem facing humanity, and probably has been for as long as humans have lived in organized societies. 1617751915 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112320656 103328898 Dan Oregon Yeah, it’s called White Supremacy, the founding principal of our republic. Also, a phrase not used in this article. Mr. Pape argues that “additional information” may be needed to resolve this issue, rather than just law enforcement. We could start by consistently calling it what it is. 1617751490 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112320640 53707414 Puny Earthling Iowa

And here I thought The Great Replacement referred to eliminating humans and replacing them with pod people.

Come to think of it, based on the behavior of the radical far-right, that process may be well underway.
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112320325 63638092 Hal nyc What is a white person? The flaw in this study is reliance on old definitions of race that use “white” as a stand in for some sort of majority or dominant identity. There is no common history of white Americans. No common traditions. Being white just means not being any other race. And don’t get me started on middle class or upper middle class. These are equally meaningless descriptions in our complex economy. Everyone who isn’t living paycheck to paycheck assumes they are at least middle class. 1617749123 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112320414 58806381 Suzanne Wheat North Carolina I am a 74 year old white woman. I struggled when I was young at low paying jobs. But I never felt that some “other” people were not worthy or threatening my way of life. I have always believed that class trumps any other descriptor of American stratified society. It’s a great thing that race has come to the forefront. Blacks fighting for themselves is a long, and ongoing struggle in a world in which no one else historically has been fighting for them. What they want is to be on a equal footing in this society and they are demanding recognition. What I see is that they are fighting for me too. I have never felt concerned that someone else would rise above me in income or status. When I think of myself, my race is the last thing that concerns me. Authoritarian thinkers always want someone to blame because they somehow know better than others. Trump pushed such stuff to the forefront in his very skilled attempts to split us into warring camps. He made promises that did not materialize and his voters are angry. You would be too if you had not see through his psychological circus. 1617749737 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112320730 87229542 See It For What It Really Is Funny how the stuff that usually happens to the historically disenfranchised are happening to white people, and they show their displeasure with an insurrection. The Tucker Carlson spin machine is so much more obvious now that the latent racism is laid out for everyone to see. 1617752059 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112320736 92687369 Eli Dallas

Every time this extremely obvious point is made, a bunch of liberal white people make a big go of being so lost and confused that their fellow white people are the way they are, and immediately place as much distance as they can from them…“Oh those poor and uneducated trumpers, worried they’ll be replaced. Perhaps if they were more educated…”.

No. Trumpers are your brothers, fathers, sisters, cousins, best friends, pastors, coworkers and church congregation. Stop pretending it’s poor uneducated white people when all the data reveals that it’s comfortable, well off racists making up the base, the same ones you break bread and go on vacations with. Not some theoretical racist trucker from kentucky.
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112320407 67934281 RX Bay Area

White privilege is real. I want to state that upfront. But here are two White families that I know:

  1. My family. One grandfather (French American) was so poor that he used to run along side the trains in town to pick up coal to sell. He finished 8th grade. My other grandfather suffered such poverty after his own father’s death (died of suicide in the Depression - Irish American) that he lost two toes from too tight shoes and the inability to go to the doctor. Both of these men attained middle class economics through military careers, including one grandfather who graduated from college. My own father crafted a career where he made a lot of money with a two year degree (this is where the White privilege starts to matter). And then the trajectory stopped - none of the men in my generation of my family went to college.

  2. White Family #2: Anglo American, many generations of educators and doctors, a couple hundred years of east coast and midwest elite prep schools. Ivy educations. No one in the family isn’t rich.

I don’t understand why we can’t talk about class more.
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112320515 136215990 Someone is Beautiful USA

The younger generations of Americans will be our salvation. They are less concerned with race, and more likely to be biracial or multiracial. As they become more influential in politics and their careers—note the response to Georgia’s voting laws by high level Black executives—we will become a better country. Right now it’s a race to the tipping point. I’m cautiously betting they’ll come through in time.

SiB
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112320648 67348891 Susan McHale Greenwich CT Is the DOJ actually going into States to find these insurrectionists? I always see articles in Connecticut, Massachusetts and other New England States who have caught people. But what about those States that actually voted primarily for Trump? Do State officials cooperate? 1617751455 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112320683 68802864 Liber NY @Stuart: I disagree with your premise that hate is not the answer. I agree with Professor Paper,A visceral fear of Majority/Minority demographics. 1617751651 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112320471 46713396 lulugirl765 Midwest Before you conclude these people have no “reason” to their thinking, what are the chances they have experienced or know of a “diversity” hire in the workplace over the past 30 years? One in which the candidate was not qualified but ticked that diversity box? Or one where a number of candidates are qualified but the diversity determines who gets the job? Just look at the Biden administration and say there are no diversity hires. We can say “that’s what minorities have experienced forever,” and this is justice, but you can’t say that these white people are crazy and seeing nothing, or else we risk repeating the past and aren’t making true progress in fair hiring. 1617750052 4 4 FALSE FALSE
112320518 73348263 Twain’s Ghost Rocky Mountains

It should be clear to everyone (with an open mind) that Republicans are anti-democracy. They believe in minority - specifically all white - rule, and consider force to be an appropriate tool to use in gaining that power.

The Republican Party should be disenfranchised and barred from participating in government, given they have no respect for the Constitution, laws, or norms.
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112320576 77029179 ABC Flushing The university of Maryland reported that a black female is 2600 percent more likely to get into medical school as a white male with the same test scores and grades 1617750795 10 0 FALSE FALSE
112320590 53707414 Puny Earthling Iowa

“They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.”

Right, because being arrested for participating in a violent insurrection is a sure sign of upward mobility.
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112320344 40772076 n fort worth these are people who are convinced that America “owes them”. 1617749296 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112320412 976975 Nancy midwest

When I read of the folks from Frisco, TX identified during the insurrection, I looked up the town. It had a population of 3,000 in 1980 and now has a population of 211,000, truly an astounding growth rate.

Frisco is only 67% non-Hispanic white, 8% Black and 10% Asian. Many, many Whites surely haven’t been there much more than 10-15 years. Why do they think they are losing their place in Frisco? They never really had much of one.

What Pape didn’t uncover but is the case for the Frisco rioters is that they live financially precarious lives and may be pretty sore about it. With growth like Frisco has seen maybe they thought they should be lording it over all others.
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112320553 63236703 Lawrence H Lewis Ridgefield, WA The fear of these white citizens is based primarily only on skin color. There isn’t any large organization attempting to organize all the people of color even for political purposes. They just need an enemy to vent their fears upon as directed by their favorite media/information sources. They are pawns. 1617750626 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112320254 28404133 Chas Simmons Jamaica Plain, MA

“The political scientist Robert Pape … expected to find that the rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession.”

How could he think the insurgents who attacked the Capitol were economically motivated? Some at the peaceful demonstration may well have been, but the fanatics assaulting the Capitol police were surely from the neo-Confederate/neo-fascist fraction of the US public whose existence can be discovered merely from reading comments in Facebook.

“a remarkable discovery: Most of the [Arab] bombers were secular, not religious, and had killed themselves not out of zealotry, but rather in response to military occupations.”

Anyone who had read a few books on the Middle East already knew about Arab resentment of the effects of Western imperialism. Knew there were US troops on the Arabian Peninsula, knew of the thousands of Iraqi children who died due to the US-led embargo of water-purification chemicals.

Even those who haven’t studied the area ought to know that in the modern world it is patriotism, not religion, that induces men to engage in mass violence and suicidal self-sacrifice.

Was it religion that got the Marines to engage in near-suicidal self-sacrifice on the shores of Iwo Jima? No, it was American patriotism, a result of the Japanese attack on America. Arab terrorists may be darker-skinned, but they’re people, just like us. Why look for different explanations for their conduct?
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112320147 12898230 Joe Bastrimovich National Park, NJ

"When the political scientist Robert Pape began studying the issues that motivated the 380 or so people arrested in connection with the attack against the Capitol on Jan. 6, he expected to find that the rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession.

But instead he found something very different: Most of the people who took part in the assault came from places, his polling and demographic data showed, that were awash in fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people in American politics and culture."

Is Captain Obvious around? The only one who couldn’t figure out that it was all about race seems to be Political scientist Robert Pape. The rest of figured it on on……..January 6th.
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112318806 31468049 George NYC NYC After Black Americans receive reparation payments, the benefits from quotas and hiring preferences, eliminating competitive examinations for promotions what’s left? What more can be done by society to provide the means for success? Keep in mind by pushing White privilege as an excuse for one not maximizing their potential in life, you’re guaranteeing a lack of acceptance by White America. Asian Privilege and Indian Privilege are soon to be added to the lexicon of BLM. Where does it end? 1617741749 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112316963 12889273 manta666 new york, ny ‘“If all of this is really rooted in the politics of social change, then we have to realize that it’s not going to be solved — or solved alone — by law enforcement agencies,” Mr. Pape said. “This is political violence, not just ordinary criminal violence, and it is going to require both additional information and a strategic approach.”’ Joe Biden’s strategic approach: work to restore a broad middle class accross racial lines wile taxing the ultra-rich and corporations to start to restore a sense of fairness and balance to our brutal “winner take all” society. Go Joe. 1617734450 12 0 FALSE FALSE
112317571 77989539 Jonathan Katz St. Louis The left wing of the Democratic party has encouraged the “Replacement” story by promising that demographic changes will make it a permanent majority. 1617736847 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112320289 65641232 PS Massachusetts

This is spreading propaganda and fueling racial tensions. And totally one sided.

Stop making this about race. It could be about tradition, lifestyle, food, leisure habits, etc. It could be sentimentality, wanting one’s kids to have the childhood one remembers (putting the conversation about the clarity of the memory aside).

People travel all of the world to see communities that haven’t changed – what is so wrong with members of, say, a small American town wanting to hold onto their heritage and history vs morph into something unfamiliar? Don’t we want to see the farms in Vermont? Or lobster ships in Maine? You need to get a birds-eye view of this tension and tell the truth about it, instead of showing pictures of crazy white people. Yes, there are the lunatics and many of the showed up at the capital and yes there are towns that don’t want newcomers for more unhealthy reasons than mentioned above. But it is by no means the whole story.
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112318546 5310634 Vanessa Hall Millersburg Mo.

Mr. Pape said: “You see a common pattern in the Capitol insurrectionists. They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.”

Equality feels like oppression to those who have been accustomed to privilege. Why do so many white people feel the desperate need to be “better” than the rest of everyone, while at the same time looking for some ‘other’ to blame for their own lot in life?
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112320095 59586902 ZAW Near the Gulf of Mexico in Texas This should stand as a pivotal piece of research into racism in the US. So much focus is given to the sickness of slavery that metastasized in the South before the civil war, but I would argue that modern racism owes more to the Know Nothings and Copperheads of the 19th Century North. . In the Civil War, many northern politicians (the Know Nothing’s) stood against the migration of blacks to the North. Many others (the Copperheads) would have allowed the South to keep its slaves in order to end the war. Both groups, but especially the Know Nothing’s were horrifically racist. They appealed to working class northern whites with threats that the blacks would take over their jobs, their cities, even their families. . Fast forward to today. It isn’t freed slaves moving north but impoverished Latino immigrants. The response, however, is the same: they are up in arms over the perceived invasion. And worse: now the mentality has been baked into them for 160 years. And yet still worse than that: it comes combined with industrial decline and economic stagnation in blue collar parts of the country. A socially toxic mix. 1617747748 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112317761 61118192 shstl MO

While I abhor the actions and innate racism of these people, I also understand how they can look at the US over the past several decades and feel that they have indeed “lost” something.

Like many families in St. Louis, mine followed the path of white flight over several generations, first from the city to the inner ring suburbs, then to farther out in the suburbs, then finally to the exurbs across the river and increasingly further west. The neighborhoods we grew up in are all now filled with crime and poverty, looking more like bombed out war zones than the communities we knew and loved.

There are many complex reasons for this, of course. And white people certainly bear plenty of blame. But that still doesn’t take away the painful visceral response to seeing a place that you held so dearly essentially destroyed.

These emotions are valid and should be recognized and openly discussed without shame. And if they aren’t and grievance is allowed to fester……well, you wind up with somebody like Trump for president and a bunch of angry white dudes storming the Capitol.
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112318984 72965231 Gary Fedeli Pennsylvania Some of them who stormed the Capital have already lost or have an unfounded fear of losing their white privilege. Are some of them middle class who are slipping down the economic ladder, instead of climbing up? Are they jealous when they see an Hispanic or Asian prosper? It is said that poor whites fought for the South’s right to keep slaves, so that they wouldn’t be at the bottom of the ladder. 1617742476 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112319256 55897090 Janice Smith Palo Alto

Majority Minority is a naive phrase that implies that “minorities” are a monolithic group. Study after study has shown that policy priorities differ substantively between immigrant communities Hispanic, Asian and Afro descendant and slave descendant African Americans.

These differences were reflected in the 2020 votes.

The Times needs to do better on these issues.
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112319302 8074641 sterileneutrino NM They see a decline in their status in the future because they know how they have worked to suppress the status of immigrants in the the past and present. “… right-wing theory called the Great Replacement, which holds that minorities and immigrants are seeking to take over the country …” Well, which part? How many white baseball players are there? How many football players? How many basketball players? The complaints about those replacements have mostly faded. Next, how many white custodians? Street-sweepers? …. Don’t worry, you won’t be replaced unless you want to be! 1617743940 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112319497 90624417 Stale Frybread Oakland Brown & Black folks have been trying to tell everyone that the violence of the right was about race, not class, for a long time. The media, including this paper, gave racists a pass and claimed the violence was/is about economics. It’s not. 1617744774 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112318302 17432891 Astrochimp Seattle

The Times is quick to note things like “…right-wing media outlets continue to stoke fear…” and is correct to do so because the radical-right is divisive and destructive.

But, did anyone else notice that all the BLM protests, riots, arson, looting etc. in late spring and summer 2020, over the pair of lies that a) the officer intended to cause the death of George Floyd and b) it was because of Floyd’s skin color, nearly re-elected Trump?

Many “white” people see “black” people demanding special rights and receiving them, which is the equivalent of a racist attack on them. They’re not wrong about that, but this is an important source of the “replacement” and “annihilation” myths, which are nonsense.

I ask the Times to acknowledge that racism and hate are multilateral problems, not unilateral, because that would bring us closer to a peaceful and more happy society.
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112318398 77444339 KS Michigan Poor black and brown people are the easy-to-identify scapegoats for the rich getting richer and automation and technology leaving all those behind who do not have competitive skills including some white workers. Manufacturers cannot fill many jobs due to unskilled workers and you have to have the coding skills to work in IT. I would much rather be in a position to learn the skills and have a good chance of getting the job after I learn them than to have the skills and still be denied the job. 1617740020 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112319585 40303433 Ellen F. Dobson West Orange, N.J. We are all immigrants. Fear of losing control caused the murders of Native Americans, the murder of people of color who were used as slaves after they were forcefully brought here in dire conditions Anyone different than a white person was repellent and this received inhumane treatment. Nothing has appeared to change except the decreased population of whites. Fear mongering breeds violent attacks. This is our history and our present. It is only getting worse as the white population decreases and the ability to buy weapons of mass destruction increases. Yet no one seems to know how to deal with this effectively. So many lives lost. 1617745194 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112318556 56859037 Ski bum Colorado

The entire article seems to me to be a great definition of ‘white supremacy’ and racism.

These folks will need to learn pluralism and how to assimilate themselves with their fellow Americans; otherwise they will lead disenfranchised lives with little hope of progress and happiness.

Grow up Americans, we’re not called the melting pot of the world for no reason.
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112319151 48154828 Adam stoler Bronx NY

Right wing fringe extremist behaviours have been mainstreamed Thank the Southern Strategy of Nixon & 50 years of fear mongering by the Republicans Add a dose of defunding public education( along with devaluing it) and we have a perfect storm of under and uneducated gun toting yahoos shoving their fears down our nation’s collective throats

LCD now that’s a fine recipe for entering 3rd world status
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112319678 60698613 Lynne Langford OH Racism is not an exclusive club. 1617745555 1 1 FALSE FALSE
112319848 77119639 Alicia NM

Regardless that 90% of the Capitol rioters weren’t members of hate groups, I would label them and those who attended Trump’s rally white supremacists because their actions and words demonstrate their adherence to white entitlement. Trump, their hero, personifies this belief—a self-promoting TV star and “businessman” born into wealth, who never backs down, flaunts convention and law, lies, and insults without consequence. His supporters wanted to believe that the election had been stolen because they are the “White Lives Matter” without concern for the inequalities experienced by nonwhites. It’s all about their “American Dream.” It was “their House” that they invaded, vandalized, and defaced. They were the “Patriots” standing up for “their liberties.”

Will it happen again? “Yes,” as Mr. Pape warned. As long as “entitled” white men with access to weapons of war believe that they are “Patriots” defending by might their “right” to be ignorant (close minded and uninformed), selfish (entitled by race), mean (intimidating by aggression and words), and gullible (believing what they want to believe). As long as social media and the true fake-news sources can confuse people (in the name of free speech) with lies, propaganda, and conspiracy theories, who will stop them? As Mr. Pape stated, not law enforcement. Adding to that, not Congress where many pander to them for their votes, and probably not a politically-appointed judiciary. Who then? Just us.
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112318864 39291845 Sherry Washington

Trump and his mob are the opposite of Reagan, who in his last speech as President, championed diversity:

“I think it’s fitting to leave one final thought, an observation about a country which I love. … You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany, or Turkey, or Japan, but you cannot become a German, a Turk, or Japanese. But anyone, from any corner of the earth, can come to live in America and become an American. … Other countries might seek to compete with us, but in one vital area, as a beacon of freedom and opportunity that draws the people of the world, no country on earth comes close. This I believe is the most important sources of America’s greatness. We lead the world because, unique among nations, we draw our people, our strength, from every country and every corner of the world, and by doing so we continuously renew and enrich our nation. … Thanks to each wave of new arrivals to this land of opportunity we’re a nation forever young, forever bursting with energy and new ideas, and always on the cutting edge, always leading the world to the next frontier. … If we ever close the door to new Americans our leadership in the world would soon be lost.”

<a href=“https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/ronald-reagans-final-presidential-speech-was-for-immigrants” target="_blank">https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/ronald-reagans-final-presidential-speech-was-for-immigrants</a>;
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112319264 21044881 Suzanne California

Is it ok to say, I have zero empathy for these nasty white people who fear losing their privilege? I know lots more white people who embrace diversity, multiculturalism and all the other realities of America today - realities that make us a stronger, more interesting and more competitive country.

I am white and so tired of reading headlines and articles “explaining” these racist, hateful people. Yes, trump was brilliant in tapping their anger and their votes, dragging them out from under the rocks they’d been slithering under.

Please can we move beyond this tendency to keep “explaining” them? They are dangerous and need to be profiled, watched and stopped from another violent, treasonous attack on our democracy.

We are up for that, right? To stop their violent treason? To stop over-explaining who they are? We know who they are. The rest of us, in all our multi-cultural diversity, are exhausted by their hate, racism, violence - and cheating to cling to power by any means necessary. Profile us and explain us more, please. Let us really understand how hard we must work to defeat these nasty people.
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112319681 82615867 There4IM Michigan Beyond the social factors surrounding the insurrection, one psychological underpinning of these actions lies in “zero-sum” thinking. I found this set of studies fascinating. <a href=“https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/12/eaay3761” target="_blank">https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/12/eaay3761</a>; 1617745564 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112320023 55998315 Bruce Denver CO When is the U.S. Attorney for Washington, D.C. going to grow a backbone and order Trump arrested? 1617747441 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112320172 70397442 Sherry Pittsburgh How is this a shock or surprise. Trump supporters are racists, full stop. There never was any economic component to their embracing of one of the most bigoted, uniformed and entitled people ever to hold public office. And please stop writing articles -not this one- that seek to understand them. 1617748218 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112318704 67116529 Tamza No Cal If you looked at any major US university science and engineering graduate program enrollments in the 1965-on period you would have predicted this. Less than 60pct, often less than 50pct, were white. Majority were South Asian and Asians. The business schools were teeming with whites - THAT is where the EASY-BUCK was. Now that is changing too. The ‘coloreds’ who migrated to the US paid their dues; now their children are reaping the rewards. Now the children, and grandchildren, are staying away from the sciences, and computing. Just like other issues in the US [sexual harassment] this will not go away by attacks on the capitol. Fundamental change, starting with education, will be needed. 1617741240 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112319385 8407907 Lle UT Instead of took a MAGA field trip on January 06 those guys should stay home and try to make more babies. 1617744283 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112319657 41748877 David Tallahassee They are afraid their race insufficient to command respect as they have been accustomed to. They may have to work harder as well and see minorities shoot past them in every way. 1617745482 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112318647 104895642 Toby Anchorage, Alaska How does the new york times, and the author of this study, get from census data to the intentions of people who live in those places? I’m a white man, my children are bi-racial, and therefore counted as non-white by the census. Does the existence of my children somehow prove that my zip code is where the racist white people live? This is a bridge too far, if your readers want to believe that upper manhatten is where the good white people live and the remainder of the country is “there be racists”, knock yourself out. I’m sure you all can find the rationalization to get there. Keep dishing out red meat to your audience. 1617740973 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112318602 67633122 Earthling Earth

Another common factor among the insurrectionists is narcissism.

Look at all the showing off – on Parler, Facebook, Twitter and in person. The bullying and aggression, including explosive rage among the most violent. The loud-mouthed pride in what they were doing. The “special snowflake” entitlement, shown in part by the shock and whining (cockroaches in jail! no organic food!) when they realize their unique wonderfulness won’t save them from facing consequences for their actions. The obsession focus on themselves to the exclusion of all others, including their own children. The inflated sense of self-importance. The “look at me!” bids for attention. The costumes, military cosplay, personal brands and nicknamed personas on display. (Q-Shaman anyone? “Baked Alaska” livestream? Bugzie the Don & Stephen Ignoramus?) The lack of empathy or ability to entertain other points of view. The lack of any sense of humor.

Many of them were so invested in expressing their personal identities they wore work logos, state-flag badges, local-chapter militia patches and other identifiers while committing crimes, making it easy for the FBI to later identify them.

But their narcissism is no surprise when their starting point was their devotion to the former Narcissist-in-Chief.
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112318628 14195106 Vin Nyc

“When the political scientist Robert Pape began studying the issues that motivated the 380 or so people arrested in connection with the attack against the Capitol on Jan. 6, he expected to find that the rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession.”

It is amazing - and a huge indictment on American media and academia - to see how once a narrative takes hold, nothing can dislodge it.

Contrary to the dozens of NYT articles in the last four years of “working class Trump voters in diners,” it’s been well-documented - quite copiously, in fact - that the bulk of Trump support is not the mythical downtrodden white working class, but your typical Middle-American middle class (or above) suburban white family; often small business entrepreneurs. A Trump supporter is more likely to be a suburban small business owner with a pick up truck and a boat in the garage than a downtrodden laid-off factory worker. Like, this is not esoteric knowledge. One would expect academics and journalists to know this (given that randos on the internet do), and yet you guys created a different narrative five years ago that you are seemingly unable to leave behind.
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112319091 64668333 mike San Francisco -This whole article is pretty much based upon the conclusions of one researcher.. And some of those conclusions, like drawing parallels to early-American history, seem a bit simplistic & far-fetched. ..– Probably would be wise to take this with a big grain of salt. (Though apparently the NYT likes drinking the Kool-Aid).. 1617742970 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112320301 20547404 J Los Angeles

I, myself, as a white man, cannot WAIT for the “Great Replacement” and the end of white entitlement.

Bring it on.
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112320303 58585713 Me in here America. I think. I hope.

Losing out? How about an unjust and unfair playing field being just a little bit leveled!

I have said many times.. the twice impeached election loser grifter convinced white people that something was stolen from them and he was going to get it back.

Hating someone because they are not like you only serves to breed fear, isolation, perpetuate ignorance and prevents one from seeing what we have in common and someone else’s humanity.

Pretty sad way to exist.

I would wager that those FOMO (fear of missing out) people do not really know anyone in those groups they fear.
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112318631 74237338 Stuart Alaska Hold on a minute. Letting the Capitol Rioters be a stand in for all Republicans, all Trump voters, all people from middle America, all evangelicals or all anything is as wrong as when Fox News encourages someone with a slogan or sign to represent all black people, all liberals or what have you. Please recognize that these people are a small fringe, whipped up by Right Wing media and social media, and that even some of these rioters may be decent people led into doing hateful stupid things. Hate isn’t the answer on either side. 1617740920 80 19 TRUE FALSE
112319416 48154828 Adam stoler Bronx NY

ironically, the “free market” system, as applied to society and economics allows for expansive, close to unlimited growth

Why then all the proponents of these fringe ideologies acting like it’s zero sum game?
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112319528 28320416 Tim Milwaukee It’s strange to hear this zero sum attitude. Whatever happened to the trickle down mantra “a rising tide lifts all boats”? I can almost hear someone saying " I’m all for equality except for those other folks". 1617744921 3 2 FALSE FALSE
112319218 37566340 Larry Saxxon San Francisco

This issue (true equality) will either make or break this country.

No more time left to entertain "alternative narratives, vs. looking in the mirror of our souls as a nation.

Hopefully, before it’s too late! Like the clime challenge, we don’ have that much time left to correct the course!
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112319608 80819132 Misplaced Modifier Former United States of America

I think the entrenched racism of whites in southern states is different from what’s happening “up north.” I’ve been browsing reader comments and from what I can tell there are indeed racists (hatred based on skin color), but most of the comments I read from states like PA, WI, MI, MO etc are based on:

  1. fears surrounding competition for employment, housing, natural resources/ space and taxpayer resources; and

  2. a desire to live in an economically and culturally (not racially but perhaps also religiously) homogenous society.

I don’t think we will ever be able to reach the southern racist people, especially once they have developed beyond childhood. But if we want to build bridges to the other group, we should start by ending illegal immigration and work on restoring the middle class. We also need billionaires to start paying taxes. We should create a public works program and ensure social services are helping and putting American citizens back to work so we can rebuild our middle class. Help our own citizens, our homeless, children, elderly, vets, poor and and put an end to illegal immigration and the related policies that allow tens of millions of them to remain in this country.

If we do these things I think we will see equilibrium restored and the populist uprising will settle down once a majority of people feel more secure. But the majority of Americans can’t feel secure when both billionaires and illegal immigrants are using up our government resources.
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112319054 32297946 gw usa

What happened at the Capitol was shocking and despicable. But you can’t say modern racism was solely to blame.

Its as old as the hills - whenever an established group feels it is being displaced by others they don’t relate to, for whatever reason, the reaction can be territorial. Social animals will ferociously defend their turf. Inter-tribal Native American warfare was brutal even before European colonization. Urban gentrification ignites reverse racism. Gang violence infests cities. Etc. Whole fields of sociology, and Richard Dawkins’ The Selfish Gene, dig into instincts of tribalism, territoriality and “kin selection.”

What happened at the Capitol was indefensible, and can never be allowed to happen again. We could start by acknowledging the tribal nature of human and animal behaviour that goes beyond racism.
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112319222 76602059 In Your Face USA I just finished watching ‘13th’ on Netflix. A documentary concerning the Prison Industrial Complex. Commentary on the movie ‘Birth of a Nation’ and how it sparked racial tensions, again. I highly recommend this Documentary for those who want to better understand the precarious position we as American Citizens on facing. 1617743571 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112319296 67332269 Slate Hardon Cincinnati In 2010 and the emergence of the Tea Party and then in 2016 and MAGA, there has been endless tomes ascribing white political backlash to everything from recession to robotics. Academics and Op-Ed writers have gone to great lengths to deny the obvious: it’s not recession, it’s not robotics, it is about race. More specifically, it’s about white primacy in politics, in the economy and in the culture. It has been the case since the 1960s, and was given political power through the Republican use of race and white identity to create an electoral machine that wins elections. The Republicans can’t quit white identity politics. Now it is the only way they can maintain power. We are reaping the whirlwind. The current disarray among the opposition to Republican politics can be resolved if we stopping making excuses for white backlash—it’s about cancel culture or “socialism”—and we accept the facts that it’s about race. We have a majority of the country that believe in a positive, progressive future. It’s time to organize the majority for political power. And move beyond white identity politics, and the Republican Party and the dead enders that form their most militant base. 1617743929 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112319457 17869631 Mark Long Beach Can a multi-ethnic state riven with hostility and bitterness survive? I know! Let’s examine history to see how this has unfolded in the past. This constant focus on race is dangerous. A DisUnited States is unlikely to be a better place for all. 1617744611 7 0 FALSE FALSE
112319604 52729395 Mort Dingle Packwood, WA

Ironically, despite the United States having the second-best education system globally, it consistently scores lower than many other countries in benchmarks such as math and science. According to the Business Insider report in 2018, its education ranking was 38th in math scores and 24th in science.

So we pay for a second rate education and the results are all the problems our author details…we had President who did not believe in science and we got his people who cannot discern a lie from the truth…
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112319697 103310818 David Olasov New York A bunch of years ago, I did an analysis of the Dixiecrat Presidential election in South Carolina. The vote, by county for Strom Thurmond, the Dixiecrat head of ticket, was directly proportional to the percentage of black residents in each county. The more (non-voting) black citizens in a county, the higher the vote for Sen. Thurmond. I was astonished. I shouldn’t have been. 1617745633 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112319362 1889794 Mark New York, NY

I would like to know more about the methodology of Pape’s study. What conditions need to be satisfied for the Times to report that a “study finds” that people think or feel, or are motivated in, a certain way?

There is a reference to polling in the second paragraph. And we are told that Pape found a correlation between a certain kind of decline in population, on the one hand, and being a county that is more likely to be the source of an insurrectionist, on the other. But that is not a psychological study. There can be a correlation between a certain factor and a certain behavior without the motivation for the behavior consisting in a psychological attitude toward the factor.

If the data on which Pape’s conclusions are based consist of polling, what were the questions people were asked? Or is the conclusion about people’s fears more of a hypothesis on Pape’s part?
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112319459 59503817 Night Sparrow Not where I want Has it occurred to them that a lot of these the non-Hispanic white population were the most likely to produce insurrectionists that its not just people of color or immigrants who right now are very upset with them? I for one am a white person who had had a lot of the financial and employment problems they face but I know that to solve the problems for me the best thing to do is to work with people of color and immigrants because they are interested in the changes that will help me not what they want that seems to hurt them as well as me. If they want my sympathy they are going to have to start backing what will actually help them rather than ruining it for everyone. 1617744612 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112319677 57299399 Foster Furcolo Massachusetts

When I was 12, my family lived in Paris for a year. The Parisians seemed to hate us, and I didn’t understand why. I’d always been fascinated by people from abroad, and I’d often talk to them.

Now I do understand it. Paris was overrun with Americans. I feel the same about the US having way too many immigrants at this time (43 million–two NY State equivalents plus 3 million have come during the last 30 years).

We Democrats need to have these numbers reduced. The backlash to seeing many towns going from almost all American to mostly Spanish speaking is part of what put the former guy in the White House.

The NYT and Politico have both had articles this year showing that a majority of Americans wants less immigration, and more border security, and polls are coming out just about every week backing this up.

It would be a disaster for us to lose Capitol Hill, but the Biden immigration plan, which would DOUBLE legal immigration to the equivalent of a New York State every decade puts us at risk.
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112319774 64397379 Deirdre New Jersey

You can’t stop change. The Republican war against change is now a culture war as the only policies they are for are the ones that let them discriminate against LGBTQ or family planning. Both are their last desperate grasps to maintain some weird 1950’s superiority.

The losses began with the election of Reagan. That is when the US stopped investing in itself and started draining the coffers to the wealthy. They distracted us with racism and culture wars and now that they are losing elections they have aired the racism out in the open

It won’t work We can all see Hopefully even more come out to vote in 2022.
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112319254 17869631 Mark Long Beach Unfortunately for the idealists among us, people - not just white people - prefer to gather in ethnic groups. Multi-ethnic states have always disintegrated into their component parts, usually in a violent fashion (Yugoslavia) although sometimes peacefully (Czechoslovakia). This brutal fact makes the ‘diversity is strength’ line naively dangerous. 1617743704 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112319422 104228734 Gambel’s Quail Out West

So which is it, fellow Americans? Is diversity an advantage for the country (as I have believed) where all boats rise with the tide? Or is it simply a buzz word, a place holder until whites are a minority and can be disenfranchised (as some pretty awful comments on here seem to suggest)?

What whites have experienced hasn’t been “privilege” - it’s what every person of color should have had all along: equal access to jobs, housing and all manner of institutions necessary for the full enjoyment of their lives (e.g., healthcare). To the nation’s shame, that obviously hasn’t been the case, and must be rectified.

But as long as we keep labeling what all Americans deserve as “white privilege,” I worry that we are not opting for people of color to get their due, but simply for a huge fight over a shrinking pie.
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112318496 70144285 Jerry Davenport New York Let’s see, the All Star game is pulled from Georgia, major corporations such as Coca Cola, Delta and others demanded it. Let’s also look at the major sponsors for the Masters; Mercedes-Benz, AT&T, and IBM all lost their voice and no peeps out of Biden. What gives? 1617740414 1 1 FALSE FALSE
112319033 71364381 JPLA Pasadena The headline explains why the Commonwealth of Kentucky continues to re-elect two senators who have done zero for the overall good of their constituents. 1617742697 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112319587 3483600 Horatio New York, NY

Political scientist conducts study. Is surprised to find out what everybody else already knew.

Trumpites are motivated by racism? Who knew?

Economic anxiety? Does that include the real estate broker who flew there on a private jet? Does that include that woman who owned a gym and said she was looking to shoot Nancy Pelosi?

Does that include their leader Donnie, the billionaire who has remained rich despite failing at business again and again and again, because that’s the way the system is set up?

Seriously - what on EARTH made you think these people were suffering from economic anxiety? Donald Trump OPENLY stokes racial fear, and the only people who don’t see it don’t WANT to see it.
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112318786 36321004 Litewriter Long Island Why was the violence on January 6 so much worse? “The difference at the rallies was former President Donald J. Trump.” Kerosene met its match, so to speak. He, of course, takes no responsibility…as usual. 1617741679 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112318392 50740252 Madeleine215 Bronx, NY

How many people, White or Black, suffering from “economic anxiety” would’ve been able, in the middle of a pandemic, to fly either commercially or privately to Washington, DC, take rooms at the better hotels, afford the expensive cosplay some of them sported, and then flood bars and restaurants? Any POC could’ve told the NYT that these were the folks who are afraid of an equal playing field for all US citizens. They supported the former guy because they understood that he understood their fears of losing the privilege that got them where they are.

It seems the only people who don’t get this work in media.
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112318788 16577639 Purple Patriot Colorado Racial paranoia among some whites, especially the less educated, is the prime motivator among the new republican base. It became obvious in the wake of Barrack Obama’s election that many took as evidence of the looming displacement of white people from their position of prominence. The GOP establishment understood that and chose to take full advantage of it via Fox News and talk radio, and later the alternate “realities” of the internet. They carefully fed a steady diet of disinformation and grievance to frightened and gullible white voters, arousing their misplaced fear and anger and duping them into voting against their own interests. The GOP elite didn’t expect to lose control of the party as they have, but their effort to prop up a bankrupt Republican party with lies and malice, instead of saving the party, may be what destroys it. 1617741682 290 2 TRUE FALSE
112319227 101165840 George Cobourg The key word in this article is “status” . The author seems to be saying that white people want to retain an elevated “status”, simply by being white. If these white folks were more realistic, they would realize that their “status” comes from their character, not their colour. 1617743589 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112319300 18906079 betsy east village It’s always good to have something that everybody knows already confirmed by an academic study. 1617743936 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112318148 74958830 Hello You Can we separate this from the new middle class poverty? What is “middle class” in this article? $30,000 per year, mortgage on a hut, a rusty truck, and 2 jobs serving fries and burgers? 1617739047 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112318592 74794218 Armando Cardona San Juan, Puerto Rico

The plain truth is that the US has always had significant minorities & has never had a completely homogeneous racial, ethnic or cultural composition. America has never been, in absolute terms, a “white man’s country”. What it had for the longest time —centuries as a matter of fact— was a WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant) upperclass that represented a majority but not nearly the totality of the American people & enjoyed a disproportionate share of political & economic power, to the detriment of all others.

Now that 21st century demographics are catching up with racial & ethnic diversity the US should commit itself to finally living up to its theoretically color blind & ethnic neutral constitutional discourse. White Americans, were they wise, wouldn’t pine for a romanticized but unfair past & would embrace a future when this country truly becomes “one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty & justice for all” for the first time in its history.
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112319387 58030595 bud mckinney Survived the 1967 Newark riots.The races today are more polarized than in the 1960/70s.Why?Because politicans,media,and both lib and conservative fringe groups keep agitating and pot stirring.It’s time to put a stop to fringe group/riots/demonstrations by simply enforcing the law.Namely,you can protest whenever/wherever.Start a riot,destroying property and the police can use force to stop you.Sadly,our politicans at all levels don’t have the courage to let police do their job. 1617744294 2 1 FALSE FALSE
112319741 79243447 Ew New York The fear of white people “losing out” – is created by PROPAGANDA by right wing groups. There is no “losing out”. Our entire capitalist society is competitive – competing businesses, individuals, ideas. These weak white men who are so afraid probably think that women are replacing them too! “Losing out” to anyone is possible if the winning person is smarter, luckier, better-positioned, better-educated, with better skills and unfortunately also better connections. Get used to it everyone – You are going to have to step up to the plate to not “lose out”. May the best person excel! America is the Hunger Games. 1617745824 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112320090 47032511 Jeff Mullen NYC If we know who and where these people are, why are they still free to conspire and plan mayhem? Since we know that the former president openly fomented this violence, why is he still playing golf like nothing happened? People died. 1617747731 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112320081 18602424 James Igoe New York, NY

This was already well known, that terrorism is most often a response to military occupation…

“Most of the bombers were secular, not religious, and had killed themselves not out of zealotry, but rather in response to military occupations.”
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112320108 13653380 David A. Ervin Chicago Aren’t the conclusions presented by Mr. Pape fully anticipated in Isabel Wilkerson’s book Caste? I believe the NYT review recommended that EVERYONE should read this book. Everyone should read this book because it puts events like the attack on the Capitol into an historical and cultural context that could lead to understanding the fears that created the Great Replacement theory. Understanding, with great effort, can lead to healing. 1617747847 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112320122 78227502 hotGumption Rhode Island

“They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.”

I am a liberal Democrat tilting toward moderate and cannot tolerate studies nor reporting that extrapolates conclusions based on superficial supposition.

Where are the interviews with people from those communities stating anything that would support the broadbrush painting and certainty of study outcome?

Was anyone interviewed or was this above statement pontificating? No one was more sickened than I about the assault on our Democracy. But I demand accountability in studies and reporting.

That’s true for any topic.
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112319667 12878136 Blueboat New York These people might not be so irrationally violent if white grievance wasn’t blasted at them 24/7 by Fox and the rest of the right-wing media. 1617745513 10 2 FALSE FALSE
112320062 27017838 John Locke Amesbury, MA

“Fears of White People Losing Out Permeate Capitol Rioters’ Towns, Study Finds”

I’d bet that Native Americans could give them some perspective on this.
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112318845 96570639 eirsatz California I’m wary of the comparison made between Jan 6 and the earlier DC demos referred to. The January attack on the Capitol saw violence directed against police and the state while the earlier demos saw violence directed against random POC passers by and anti fascists. In those instances the police stood by for the most part and let the proud boys and various other white supremacists and fascists have the run of the streets. Doubtful that one can draw much representative info from arrests then given that cops did their best not to arrest any of the criminals involved. 1617741927 4 1 FALSE FALSE
112319236 86272406 Zobar West Coast When you consider the fact that it’s White people who control and dominate the power structure in this country, the whole claim of “losing out” is totally absurd. 1617743626 187 14 TRUE FALSE
112319632 66865645 ultimateliberal new orleans

Racial and cultural anxieties………..what are these people afraid of?

Racial bias makes no sense……..we are all humans. How did white people develop such fears of those who have other customs, mores, and color?

We should be celebrating diversity because we have so much to learn from one another!
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112318999 57431316 Shawn California What is “non-Hispanic white?” Is this just whites policing the boundaries of whiteness? The way it’s applied, which is to subtract from whites those whites of hispanic origin, implies a fine tuning - an effort to describe what is “truly white” - a one drop rule that suggests whiteness can be contaminated by certain languages and certain cultures. 1617742544 6 2 FALSE FALSE
112318839 48857126 James Allar NYC The insurrectionists are looking at all these external factors to blame their misery and their shortcomings on when all they need do is look at themselves in the mirror to see the source of their perceived failures. That and very mistaken belief that any Republican politician cares about them. Fueled by Fox News misinformation. Ugly America is very real, but it’s based on illusions and delusions and lies. 1617741910 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112318260 78235501 Robert D Maplewood What seems to be missing from these analyses is this: the role religion plays in inspiring these crazy people to do things they would probably never have dreamt they would do. Evangelical religions have fundraised and organized much of this… and to look at this insurrection only in terms of race doesn’t tell the whole story. The truth is… Republicans gained ground in the last election with almost every marginalized group… and lost ground with suburban white voters. This narrative doesn’t match that reality. Culture wars are defining people more and more.. and most people don’t want their identity handed to them by think tanks or social media. The pushback against that is also inspiring these nuts…. 1617739495 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112319824 61155160 Brian New Jersey A revealing study. These self-contained counties, mostly middle & upper class whites, are being fueled by conservative pundits and grifters. The lies grow roots, then spread by words echoed in parks, grocery stores, soccer match sidelines, little league stands, & church parking lots. Imagine a looming shadow of something called The Great Replacement, gripping a hold of your brain, cutting off circulation to your heart. These people are broken through ignorance. 1617746287 2 1 FALSE FALSE
112320129 57788230 greenbro Reno, NV Mr. Pape posits that law enforcement alone will not be able to solve this problem rooted in the politics of social change. I would further theorize that those who stormed the Capitol felt entitled to do so, and believe, justifiably so, that law enforcement on a large scale, sympathizes with their actions. After all, are they not taking action to maintain the status quo? 1617747963 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112318743 87254612 J J Vegas 80% of job loses are due to automation. That is something that media like Fox and Newsmax do not bother to tell their audience. It’s far better for them to play on the fear that their white audience has of foreigners. Many working class whites are fearful of becoming a minority. Hispanics have largely displaced whites in some industries, most notably in residential construction and food service, but what’s driving the majority of job losses is automation. This trend is only going to accelerate in the near future with self driving cars and trucks displacing millions of blue collar jibs. The right wing media will continue to stoke fear instead of educating their audience on the inevitable march of technology and its impact on employment. Technology marches on and there’s nothing any of us can do about it. A.I. is coming for your job. 1617741439 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112319759 58671272 Zezee Bronx The USA shares a hemisphere—and a history—with Central and South America. In fact the USA was Spanish before it was English. Let’s all work and play together. Spanish music, dance, art, food, language, folkways, philosophy—enrich our lives. I can’t understand why some people can’t see this. 1617745921 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112319751 36749978 Angela Midwest

If Mr. Pape’s initial conclusions — hold true, they would suggest that the Capitol attack has historical echoes reaching back to before the Civil War.

Really, the Civil War? That is giving the people that took part on Jan. 6 too much credit. It is more like P.T. Barnum: there is a sucker born every minute. Fox News, the Republicans, and Trump are very cognizant of this axiom and are happy to manipulate these unwitting mopes every minute of every day.
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112317137 59034020 Daniel Hoffman Philadelphia

I did not see any real evidence presented to support the conclusions of the article. He didn’t even bother to speak to any of the people who participated in the attack on our Capitol.

This article is prejudice pretending to be scientific. It should not have been published.
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112319801 37887004 V FL

This country has done a heck of a lot of pretending that class doesn’t exist, so (some) people align based on race instead.

How many of these Trumpers are also anti-union, unless it’s a police union their brother’s in?
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112319809 5161936 JimBob Los Angeles

“…places…that were awash in fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people.”

No. It is irrational to fear that your rights, guaranteed by the Constitution, are being crowded out. What’s being crowded out is the automatic privilege heretofore conferred on white people, the automatic assumption that their superiority to people of color gave them the upper hand in all interactions, confrontations and economic arrangements. No wonder they’re afraid.
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112319814 77342798 Val Toronto Universal basic income, workers controlling the means of production, and working class solidarity would prevent much of the bitterness seen in poor white communities. Some people would still be fascists of course, but I would be willing to bet that improved working conditions and quality of life would help. Looking at these issues through the lens of class makes sense. 1617746254 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112319613 66719145 jules California

Headline states “Fears of White People Losing Out…..”

Losing out WHAT, exactly?

Don’t Magas believe in boot-strapping?
Don’t Magas absolutely hate when people get “free stuff?”
Don’t Magas scoff if people of color complain about barriers to entry?

It’s not an immigrant’s fault if he takes work you won’t do. It’s not an immigrant’s fault if lawmakers won’t make e-verify the law of the land, or punish employers for hiring the undocumented.
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112319813 79671882 Bob Tucson, AZ

The viewpoint that minorities “threaten” the non-Hispanic white population is a classic rascist view. Only someone who thinks in terms of segregating society by skin color would feel threatened by people of a different skin color. Instead of seeing shared values and goals, they cannot see past physical appearances.

Unfortuneately our federal government helps to perpetuate classification of people into “races” based on skin color. Our approach dates to the 1960s. Advances in science has left the concept of “races” behind, but socially the concept of “race” based on skin color is as strong as ever.
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112319823 60562074 Charlie Midwest I think the author is correct that a perceived need for self defense of ones status played a big part in the motivation of the capital building mob. The BLM riots and the passive response to them by the government also is a factor as they are seen as a crises which must be fixed by strong patriots. The fact that so many of the BLM protestors are seen as weak, man-bunned and emasculated plays right into this strong patriot attitude. 1617746283 0 1 FALSE FALSE
112319463 66342952 ElleJ Ct. Can someone articulate what these people are so afraid of? Other than always wanting to be heard, what is their problem? Maybe if they had gotten an education, would stop blaming everyone and everything for their loser lives and avoid nut conspiracy groups like QAnon, they wouldn’t always be in such a panic about skin tone. 1617744618 14 0 FALSE FALSE
112318618 81086255 mj somewhere in the middle

This isn’t about white people. This is about white men. Their sense of entitlement is going to destroy us all. I’ve met plenty of these men and what they all have in common is that they are not getting what they imagine they deserve. That is the outcry of their stupid leader. The man born with a fortune who lost it and is ridiculed and derided for his utter lack of humanity. The bully. The fool. The clown.

It’s the GOP who has channeled it into anger at minorities… and women. Which is very rarely mentioned. The few women you see at these temper tantrums with guns are always angry for their man.

Times have moved on. I’m sure the dinosaurs fought against their demise too.
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112319097 49378451 sarah NYC When I read the phrase “Fears of white people losing out,” my brain automatically – and immediately – translates it to “Racism.” Racism permeates the Capitol rioters’ towns. 1617742992 7 0 FALSE FALSE
112318625 67633122 Earthling Earth

Another common factor among the insurrectionists is narcissism.

Look at all the showing off – on Parler, Facebook, Twitter and in person. The bullying and aggression, including explosive rage among the most violent. The loud-mouthed pride in what they were doing. The “special snowflake” entitlement, shown in part by the shock and whining (cockroaches in jail! no organic food!) when they realize their unique wonderfulness won’t save them from facing consequences for their actions. The obsessive focus on themselves to the exclusion of all others, including their own children. The inflated sense of self-importance. The “look at me!” bids for attention. The costumes, military cosplay, personal brands and nicknamed personas on display. (Q-Shaman anyone? “Baked Alaska” livestream? Bugzie the Don & Stephen Ignoramus?) The lack of empathy or ability to entertain other points of view. The lack of any sense of humor.

Many of them were so invested in expressing their personal identities that they wore work logos, state-flag badges, local-chapter militia patches and other identifiers while committing crimes, making it easy for the FBI to later identify them.

But their narcissism is no surprise when their starting point was their devotion to the former Narcissist-in-Chief.

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112318997 45938234 Mallory San Antonio I am so tired of white Americans whining about their losses as African Americans have to deal with police brutality and the loss of their voting rights, and Asian Americans have become punching bags to the point of being murdered or seriously injured. Get over it. The country has had ethnic diversity for going on two centuries and everyone deserves the same opportunities. It sickened me to see the capitol building and its occupants attacked by bitter white Americans who have made up grievances. 1617742533 15 0 FALSE FALSE
112318138 46850779 L NYC Seems remarkably easy to understand: These white people want to be “the masters” and they believe that everyone of another color skin should always be their “underlings.” That’s how they see it, and they want their leaders to make it BE that way. 1617738998 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112318391 70144285 Jerry Davenport New York “Fears of White People Losing Out Permeate Capitol Rioters’ Towns, Study Finds” Ok, let’s accept the premise. Wonder under what pretense the burning, looting, rioting occurred in 2020. If Whites are accused of Jan 6, who were the rioters in 2020 and towards what end. 1617739994 2 1 FALSE FALSE
112319363 55635161 David NYC Let’s be clear. It’s called racism. 1617744194 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112319510 12227762 Mary Jane Give Us Back Our northeast Tax Dollars I don’t underhand all this delicate handling. Just lock them up 1617744828 11 0 FALSE FALSE
112318674 78254499 Srocket SoFla So what’s next? Domestic suicide bombers? Probably not I surmise. The Insurrectionists are cowards. 1617741116 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112318102 76628886 Toby Shandy Shandy Hall

In other words, January 6 was a race riot.

Maybe rural whites should look to the Asian community for tips on how to be a model minority.
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112319432 21044881 Suzanne California Why does MSM keep “explaining” racist hateful people to us over and over again? 1617744486 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112319575 64668333 mike San Francisco Huh.? So this article is based on the conclusions of ONE researcher.?? Seems a bit thin, doesn’t it? – In any case, the Jan 6th rioters weren’t attacking immigrants.. they were attacking members of Congress, and they were stirred on by false claims of a stolen election… — And what’s really missing here is some input by the rioters themselves. why not just go ask them why they did it..? Wouldn’t that make more sense than the strained conclusions & supposed historical parallels given here.. lol. —- What kinda Kool-aid is the NYT drinking these days.??– 1617745143 4 2 FALSE FALSE
112318206 76263903 Livonian Los Angeles

We live in a time where the Good Guys talk about how “whiteness is problematic,” the white “race” is responsible for every ill in the world, Robin DiAngelo explains that white children are born racist, and gleefully predict the demographic decline of white people in America. Black students demand all black dormitories and graduation ceremonies. A respected black author at the Root writes an essay, “Whiteness is a pandemic,” virtually calling for the white genocide. We only become alarmed at anti-Asian violence when a white person perpetrates it.

Simply put, the Good Guys, the racial progressives and the “anti-racism” activists indulge in the most openly racist anti-white rhetoric imaginable. We are soaking in the racism of “anti-racism.”

And now we are shocked - shocked! - to find that many white people are once again explicitly identifying by and organizing around their whiteness.

It seems that the left, the progressives, liberals, the self proclaimed “Good Guys,” the alleged inheritors of MLK, Jr.’s vision, are intent on sowing the seeds of the race war which marginalized right wing extremists have been hell-bent on bringing about for generations.
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112319187 79389660 Joule1 Ohio E Pluribus Unum. 1617743433 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112319703 70743135 Gabriella Seattle What a fancy way of saying they’re white supremacists! 1617745649 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112317970 67934281 RX Bay Area

This is not going to be a popular opinion. I grew up in a rural small city that was about 90% White in the 1970s (maybe 75% White now). I have lived my entire adult life in diverse urban places on the West Coast, the majority of that time in the heart of Silicon Valley.

The United States imports a lot of highly educated labor - doctors, nurses, engineers, computer scientists, graduate students/professors - from all over the world. At the same time, White rural schools, cities, and towns are drastically underfunded and neglected by decent economic policy, in a way that was not true a generation ago.

I think the neo-Republican/Reaganomics attitude is, why build healthy communities and prepare more Americans for good competitive jobs when many other countries will pay for all of that education (preschool through graduate school), and we can reap the benefits by offering visas.

At this point, only the most affluent and educated Americans are in a position to prepare their kids to compete. If your family missed the boat in the last 40 years, it’s gone.

This is just one lens. I’m not saying that blatant racism doesn’t also exist.
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112318502 81613078 Lawrence Norbert USA

People born with curiosity and openness as part of their personality are more likely to leave their small rural towns and get an education and move to a city or a college town. Those with more conservative natures are less likely to seek change and stay where they are.

So those areas not only have very white populations, they are likely to have lower education levels because those seeking greater education and knowledge about the world are more likely to leave, draining rural areas of the diversity of thought and ideas that might once have existed there.
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112317946 56213992 BurnedToast South Carolina

Best solution: Treat everyone like a fellow human being.

Convincing everyone to do that is a problem but asking the question “Why not treat everyone like a human being?” is a new idea to some folks and they will ponder. It helps them to get off the track of Us and Them.
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112317802 65845055 hdtvpete Newark Aiport

Deep down, we are still a tribe-based society, no matter how much education, wealth, political intelligence, or stature we’ve acquired in life or how much our consciousness has been raised.

On a primitive level, members of tribes tend to look at other tribes with caution or perceive them as threats, particularly when members of other tribes begin to show up in greater numbers in “our” territory.

We respond by erecting barriers to keep “others” out. Again; on a primitive level, physical barriers. On a more advanced level, we erect financial, legal, and political barriers. But all types of barriers serve the same purpose.

And when those barriers are removed, often by government action, we respond in different ways - moving out of neighborhoods, moving our kids into private schools, only joining clubs with “exclusive” membership, etc.

We point fingers at “others” and use them as scapegoats to avoid reality (i.e. “others” are taking our jobs when in reality companies are down-sizing, offshoring, automating, looking for higher-skilled labor, etc.)

And apparently, when we feel most threatened, we reject logic and reason and resort to violence…just like primitive tribes do…
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112317855 76363334 John Donovan Eugene, OR I’ll say it again: when one is accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. 1617737938 28 0 FALSE FALSE
112318414 48903816 David Maine I have nothing more reliable to go on, but my gut tells me a lot of these people did not expect to get caught and/or punished. Law enforcement is not the answer to deep-seated social alienation, but it does get the attention of those who assume they can just act out without any consequences. Appropriate penalties seems like a good place to start, and we can see if a fair number of these scofflaws don’t sober up. It won’t be the only answer but it should be first on the list. 1617740055 9 0 FALSE FALSE
112318447 43528999 AC Jersey City It doesn’t surprise me that a group of people so deeply invested in a culture of violence, persecution and fear of the other are willing to resort to any means to maintain power. In their minds a world in which they are no longer afforded the benefit of the doubt due to their skin color must be unpalatable.
They may be vulnerable to substandard schools, poor housing, unequal justice systems and financial prejudice. How would they survive in such a dystopian existence and what impact will it have on their families and their future? If only they could see what that America looks like then even consider making an even better society where people don’t have to experience those conditions.
Or maybe this group of people are more in touch with what the majority of their fellow citizens really truly think and want to ensure that the conditions never exist where they will have to truly face the results.
Can anyone clarify?
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112318463 23354677 Robert Broadhead Tucson, Sz This is a fabulous analysis, worthy of the Pulitzer Prize. It draws off of especially important work on international terrorism, offering truly original thinking on domestic terrorism that is fostered by powerful but poorly understood sociological forces. 1617740267 7 1 FALSE FALSE
112317784 70681574 Jean NJ I noticed for the last few years that the Trumpers were not poor left-behind rural whites as we were led to believe. They have pricey pickup trucks, expensive guns, boats, lake houses and the ability to take time off to travel to rallies and insurrections. They are people with privilege and money and they don’t want to share “their country” with anyone. 1617737673 25 2 FALSE FALSE
112318281 165864 Mark Kessinger New York, NY A certain level of anxiety over cultural, ethnic and racial differences is natural, and is likely hardwired into us as a species. But at a certain point, a person makes a decision about whether to focus on those differences or to focus instead on our common, shared humanity. People are slaves to their ethnic/cultural/racial anxieties only to the extent they choose to be. 1617739596 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112318345 81680622 Greg Texas Two dynamics in our country were the secret of Trump’s success, at least among the non-millionaires and billionaires: disappearance of jobs and the simple fact that whites will fairly soon no longer constitute a majority in this country. Trump and his ilk fostered the belief that the first of these dynamics was caused by the second - hence, the continuous air of racism that hung around his rallies and everywhere he or his followers hung out or spoke. These twin dynamics can still be exploited and will be (e.g., all the voter suppression we are seeing now). Funny, though, that immigrants get blamed for the effects, but not the wealthy who profit from the changes. And instead of solving the problem, we use exotic conspiracy theories to try to assess blame and vent our rage. This is not the first time this has all happened. The Dreyfus Affair in France was very similar. 1617739812 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112317912 67633122 Earthling Earth

I’ve been tracking the arrested from the beginning on a spreadsheet, and the “Counties with Great Replacement Fears” pattern doesn’t jibe with what I’ve been seeing. The common thread I’ve seen is people whose income and/or employment have taken a big hit from Covid restrictions – particularly small business owners – resulting in a combination of personal financial stress and “idle hands.”

It would help if The Times had included a table or graph identifying the specific counties that Mr. Pape had determined were both disproportionate insurrection feeders and, according to his analysis, awash with Great Replacement anxiety.

I’ve been tracking by town and state rather than county, but the states that are over-represented among the rioters are simply “Trump country” with big populations: Pennsylvania (48 arrested), Florida (42) and Texas (37). As for towns, the insurrectionists came from all over the place, without a lot of repetition.

A disproportionate number of insurrectionists come from Beverly Hills. Is the setting of “Beverly Hills 90210” a place known for its fear of racial replacement?
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112318848 62056303 Peggy C Vero Beach, Fl When I went into a local Verizon store the gentleman who helped me had a Spanish accent. As I tried to decide what phone to buy I asked him where he was from. He said Venezuela, that he asked for asylum back in 2011 and he still hasn’t had a court date. I told him he was lucky he came in 2011. He told me he has had many jobs and was able to buy a house. He told me how happy he was to be in this country and he obviously has worked very hard since he’s been here. I wished him luck and told him that we can always use hard workers in this country. He left 2 messages for me just making sure that all was going well with my new phone. I sent him a text to tell him I loved my new IPhone and again wished him luck. Maybe many of these American made terrorists are not only racists but don’t want to be upstaged by immigrants that work harder than they want to work. 1617741936 11 0 FALSE FALSE
112318663 154732688 Pam Skan The intersection of replacement fear and “honor culture” as described by Rice University social psychologist Ryan P. Brown (“Honor Bound,” Oxford University Press 2016) would make for a fascinating study. To what extent does the violent code of an honor culture exacerbate, or perhaps underpin, the aggression of current and historical mob movements targeting “infringement” by newcomers? 1617741066 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112318866 66771657 Ted NY

“The medium is the message”. Let’s start by regulating social media and reinstate the FCC’s Fairness Doctrine: “introduced in 1949, (it) was a policy that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was honest, equitable, and balanced.” Facebook’s Zuckerberg is a criminal.

Let’s ditch the 40 year destructive deregulatory economic policy, a Milton Friedman gift. Let’s reform immigration once and for all. Seasonal immigration must be legalize with permits that allow laborers to go back to country of origin after the season’s over. Invest in Central America to contain migration. It can be done. Let’s not permit overstay visas, particularly from Asia to continue. Bring back to the country any form of manufacturing that makes sense, financially and practically. And, above all, let’s not allow academics and think tanks with special interests to keep spewing studies of minority majorities. Quite explicitly these studies imply a descent to destruction.
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112318476 57609768 C. M. Jones Tempe, AZ

Martin Scorcese’s 2002 gem, Gangs of New York, is pretty enlightening here. Nativism is as old as civilization itself.

However, a confidence mainlining nativist fears through social media in order to pad his pockets is something new. Thanks, Jack Dorsey, you’re such a great guy.
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112318503 70912308 Deborah Portland Last night I finished reading The Sum of Us by Heather McGee. This Times article reflects exactly what she is talking about in her book - the belief in a “zero sum” situation or, if minorities gain, whites must lose.
This mindset has been promoted throughout our history by those in power to sow distrust about people of color; it helps ensure that the country doesn’t change and those in power stay in power. Her book explains how this hurts ALL of us and doesn’t have to be our future. I highly recommend it.
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112318672 96250944 DZ Humboldt County, CA I don’t understand why only 400 will be charged if 800-1000 entered the building. Isn’t everyone who entered at least guilty of criminal trespass? Whence this discrepancy? 1617741103 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112317961 59657469 x y I would love to see the statistical data. The only thing that surprises me is that it is middle and upper middle class white people who feel threatened. I would have expected it to be working class and middle class white people. 1617738312 1 1 FALSE FALSE
112318211 71038989 C. Schwinbarger California Demographics as nation destroyer? It’s certainly happened before. Infact it’s one of the main reasons big countries fall apart. Destabilizing nations. 1617739282 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112318570 54847100 psyched123 Colorado These findings already well understood by those politicians who chose to go to the border to film “reality TV” footage of the “hordes” of immigrants swimming across the border. Just to firm up the new base voters. 1617740663 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112317995 51308556 SF Reader San Francisco An interesting report, this, but not entirely surprising when you consider it in the context of the anti-immigrant rhetoric in Trump’s campaign announcement (i.e. gold escalator) and that permeated his speeches, at the White House, rallies and elsewhere. Trump and his enablers knew from the very get-go who they were talking to, stirring up, and ultimately, inciting to violence. 1617738463 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112318065 54868925 Steve Nirvana

When the Trump supporter was first profiled in 2015, I realized that they were talking about nearly all the kids I went to school with decades earlier.

Most were too lazy to apply themselves in any meaningful way to get a real education. They were certain that this didn’t matter. They were correct for a few years but eventually being unskilled without the educational attainment to do anything about it, became a severe liability.

Instead of learning from this, they passed these beliefs down to their children and grand children. They now scapegoat those who worked to get ahead and threaten them with violence.
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112318174 79425647 Eugene McElroy Highland Park, NJ One comparison with the insurrectionists of Jan. 6 that I haven’t seen made yet is with the pied noirs in pre-independence Algeria. Nothing was beyond this cross-class alliance of mostly French descendant people defending their colonial privileges: civil war, torture, the OAS “Secret Army” death squads, multiple attempts on the life of Charles de Gaulle, military mutiny and attempting to overthrow the Third Republic. We’re still a long way from Algeria 1955-1962, but January 6th gave us a glimpse of what is just below the surface. 1617739146 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112318461 80246243 American Striving For A More Perfect Union USA

“Irish Need Not Apply.”

Same sentiment, different nationality.

Americans have, historically, looked down upon the most recent arrivals.

Humans fear change and fear a loss of power. How do we deal with this in the wake a Trump presidency?

Oddly, the roots of a solution are embedded in the Scriptures so many Trump supporters claim to follow. Love your neighbor. Who is your neighbor? Everyone…
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112318407 70710031 Walter Rhett Summerville, SC

So a scholar whose original assumptions were very badly off still cannot see the bigger context and fundamental content of racism and white supremacy. Once again, systemic racism is a “surprise” and denied.

Some of us are not at “the beginning.”
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112318561 56193810 Rose America The Civil War never really ended, just went partially underground . 1617740628 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112318799 59722714 Cynical Knoxville, TN Many European Whites now identify as ‘Hispanic’ for the obvious benefits. Also, White women have been the overwhelming beneficiaries of ‘equal opportunity’ initiatives. The effect is that White people continue to benefit disproportionately from the system. This ‘fear of losing out’ is simply adding insult to injury. 1617741721 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112318809 22787593 BB Hawai’i, NYC, Mtl What would cure the fear of losing out is earning a right to exist with honest hard work, behavior and respect for those that are doing likewise. Everyone has equal right to life, not the right to impose individual rights & fears upon another. 1617741767 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112317826 68503714 Tim Washington Well of course. This was 90% of Trump’s appeal. He stoked their anger and fear. 1617737823 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112318282 60790181 William Case United States

The Census Bureau projects that whites, who made up 97.5 percent of the U.S. population in 2014, will make up 76.3 percent of the U.S. population in 2060, if current immigration trends continue. It projects that non-Hispanic whites will decrease from 77.5 percent of the population in 2014 to 68.5 percent in 2060. The other 31.5 percent of the white population would be whites who immigrated to America from Spanish-speaking countries or Hispanic whites who have an ancestor who immigrated from a Spanish-speaking country. However, it is unlikely that a distinction between non-Hispanic whites and Hispanic whites will be made in 2060. Intermarriage between Non-Hispanic whites and Hispanic whites is becoming as much the rule as the exception, especially in our most populous states—California and Texas.

Source: Table 2 (Population by Race and Hispanic Origin), Projections of the Size and Composition of the U..S: 2014 to 2060, page 9.

<a href=“https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/demo/p25-1143.pdf” target="_blank">https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/demo/p25-1143.pdf</a>;
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112318567 61480355 Lauren San Antonio, Texas

This white person welcomes a majority consisting of largely bi-lingual people, such as our Hispanic and Asian citizens. And those who have survived, generation after generation, in a country who enslaved their great- or great-great-grandparents. Many African-Americans have thrived despite the ongoing hate and suppression from the white majority.

Let’s hope our governments will be fully represented by peoples who have survived domination and discrimination for many generations. Being ruled and living in a white culture that has won, often by brutal and violent domination, can only be improved by multiple world views and experiences.
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112317974 80240507 Russell Irvine, CA People is rural communities have been hurt in recent decades. They get angry when papers like the NYT tell them they’re privileged despite their despair. I would like to see more journalism about these communities and what we can do as a nation to help them. 1617738376 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112318251 82916024 Fread Ohio I don’t care about their reasons. I care about their crime. We shouldn’t have to spend our time trying to excuse their criminality by finding “why.” What concerns us is their crime. We all have challenges, we don’t go around hurting other people or being criminals because of our personal problems!! I didn’t even bother reading all of this. It’s interesting, but it’s of no concern to me and shouldn’t! 1617739462 8 1 FALSE FALSE
112318377 30653991 liceu93 Bethesda Sad. Sad because in their ignorance, they think that giving all Americans access to “the American Dream” means that they’ll lose their privileges. They fail to realize that if we improve the lot of all people in our country we all benefit. Also sad that their are those so twisted. that they exploit these people’s fears. 1617739947 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112318487 4661200 Scott Fordin NH USA Widening wealth and opportunity gaps between the “haves” and “have-nots” provide the dirt in which hatred, racism, religious schism, and tribalism run rampant. Comity without social or legal justice is impossible, and the demagogues among us are all too willing to create scapegoats and to set citizens at each other’s throats as a means to retain power. 1617740365 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112318601 68486821 GG New York

I’ve said this from the beginning: The Trump presidency was all about white fear of becoming a majority-minority by 2030 or so.

Not all whites fear this. But there are working-class whites who think that if some other group succeeds, they are diminished. To them it’s a zero-sum game, and that is what Trump played with them. – thegamesmenplay.com
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112317077 12064282 vbering Pullman WA

Ethno-nationalism is a tremendously powerful and disruptive force. At bottom, many people want to live among and be ruled by their own tribe and not some other tribe.

One American myth is that diversity is strength. How often have you heard that? Let’s look at some strong homogeneous societies:

Napoleonic France was all white. Britain in the 19th century was all white. Wilhelmine Germany was all white. The US was a non-diverse great power 100 years ago. Japan in the early 20th century. China, today’s rising great power, has a homogeneous power structure.

Let’s look at some diverse societies:

The Austro-Hungarian empire was torn apart by ethno-nationalism. It was the proximate cause of World War I.

India is hyper-diverse. It is chaotic and econimically and militarily weak for its population size.

The former Yugoslavia.

Rwanda.

Nigeria, with Muslims in the north and Christians in the south.

Israel/Palestine.

People understand the downsides of diversity even if elites refuse to acknowledge them. People can feel these downsides in their bones.

The US was, over time, able to integrate Catholics, Jews, Germans, Irish, and Italians pretty well. We were less successful with Native Americans and blacks. I hope we in the US can integrate our Hispanic and Asians immigrants in such a way as to avoid massive civil disorder. As to whether we can do that, your guess is as good as mine. A lot will depend on the economy in the years ahead.
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112315548 58135798 Mack New England

Here’s the crazy comment for the day. or, maybe file this in the “too early to discuss” folder.

Asking one group of people to play by one set of rules and everyone else to play by another is different from historic racism, how? Maybe someone needs to actually LISTEN to white people and their concerns instead of just maligning them as racists and evil-doers solely responsible for all that’s wrong with the world. Since we are expected to acknowledge the suffering and accomplishments of others by race, why are white people the exception to this rule? Why is it OK for the media and political leaders (and racial and religious leaders) to generalize about “white” people when generalizing about any other racial group is generally not OK? Has anyone asked how the experience of white Jews, Gays, or recent immigrants is different for “white” generally? Has anyone asked “white” people from historically predominately “white” parts of the US what it was like to be a different ethnicity or religion than the majority? These nuances matter and they don’t distract from the important conversations and actions needed to resolve generations of racial, sexuality, sexual, or other inequality.

Relatively speaking, America is doing a decent job of addressing the reality of living in a messy melting pot but it needs for everyone to participate. Everyone needs to think, listen, and learn. Everyone has to empathize. Everyone needs to understand the context and acknowledge experiences.
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112317422 87958252 Andy Cincinnati It seems like a lot of the white people who tried to incite an insurrection had a nice home, a job, and took some PTO so they could drive to DC in their $50,000 pickup and overthrow the government then expected to go back and resume a normal life. There is a pervasive trait among this group to view everything as a zero sum game, where in order for someone else to succeed they must lose something in return. 1617736264 36 2 FALSE FALSE
112317175 51415176 Steven McCain New York People need someone or something to blame for their problems so why not people who have nothing to lose. Ironic the people with the less are blamed for taking from the group that has the most. White People sit at the head of the table in America and them losing their place is not the fault of people of color. Put the blame on the people who they vote for. People seldom vote for their best interest people vote their prejudice. Blame Right to work states and companies who send jobs overseas to improve their bottom line. Leaders have made White People think all of their problem come from people of a darker complexion. 1617735231 18 1 FALSE FALSE
112317173 56111121 CHUFFED SoCal Scared of losing their status?!?! They need to understand that their status is already in the gutter. 1617735226 7 1 FALSE FALSE
112317045 75716722 ARETE’ TEJAS White supremacy is our nation’s biggest issue relative the creation of reactionary groups in the US. We need laws that punish home grown terrorism immediately. Diversification of our population is a growing threat to the white power groups. The diversification of America is ongoing and is not about to stop. 1617734749 14 0 FALSE FALSE
112317234 80551134 Jim Philadelphia Forget this study. Just watch the new six part documentary about about Q on HBO and you’ll know exactly why and who stormed the Capitol. 1617735454 10 0 FALSE FALSE
112317362 63783609 Informer CA

“Counties with the most significant declines in the non-Hispanic white population are the most likely to produce insurrectionists.”

This finding doesn’t surprise me. Now to the juicy part - increases in which non-Hispanic white populations in a geographic area most increase attendance to Trump rallies?

I have no idea, because the paper isn’t published yet. I believe the editors erred when they decided to publish to publish this article on the basis of a Washington Post op-ed when the study isn’t available for general consumption yet (has it been peer reviewed? We readers have no idea).

I love the NYT because it does its own investigative journalism and publishes articles with external links so readers can easily continue researching a topic if they so choose. This article falls short of that mark.
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112318079 60079208 Robert Chicago Imagine the feeling of feeling minorities and immigrants have TOO many rights in the USA. Now that’s privilege. 1617738748 11 0 FALSE FALSE
112317905 40921964 Brett B Phoenix, AZ

And what this study also confirms is what many of us suspected deep down: that many of those who supported Donald Trump including many of our friends and neighbors did so because they are racists.

This has been the ugliest revelation of all over the past four years.
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112317930 46876704 Practicalities Brooklyn It’s a zero sum game with these people. 1617738190 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112316311 62776537 Bill Bordentown NJ OK, honestly? My reaction to this article is exasperation! The faulty assumption that these folks are driven by “economic anxiety” was disproven quite some time ago.
Look–I know that there is, and will be, an effort to always look first at the “pain and suffering” of criminals, when those criminals happen to be middle or upper class white folks. It happens every time. “What pain drove them to it?”, is what gets asked of white rioters and murderers. It’s Pavlovian. The author could have saved a lot of time by just re-listening to everything the MAGA have said, out loud, in public, for years now. Or the author could have considered, for example, why aren’t Canadian or Swedish or Irish illegals treated with the same scorn and fear as those who cross the Mexican border illegally? And on, and on, and on, and on. A segment of America still wants desperately to pretend that bigotry ain’t a problem here.
“No sir, not in America. We’re past all that. That Martin Luther King fella ended all that.” Anyway, that’s what reading this made me feel. There were no revelations here.
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112317250 87278479 left coast finch L.A.

Once again, refusing to look at what the rest of us saw on live TV: multiple signs saying “God, Guns, Trump”; “Jesus is my Savior, Trump is my President”; “Jesus Saves”; and the giant Christian flag paraded in the Senate chamber. There were spontaneous preaching and prayer gatherings on the way to the Capitol, on the steps of the Capitol, and in the chambers of the Capitol that day and the researcher didn’t even notice?

The “Islamic” terrorists may have been secular but the Capitol terrorists are emphatically white evangelical Christian and their fear is the increasing secularization of the nation, more than racial anxieties. After all, a black or brown person can be converted to Christianity, which is what’s been driving evangelical Christianity’s mission for the last century, but an avowed atheist or decidedly indifferent agnostic can not.

The nation has never before been fully secular and evangelicals, with the religious fervor of terrorists, are freaking out. We are in uncharted territory, the bridge between archaic superstitions dominating society and science-based secular humanism rising in their place. These people “need” to see the primacy of their religion dominating others with laws restricting sexuality, education, and more being the majority output of the GOP for the last decade. They are losing cultural battle after battle and incensed that the rest of us couldn’t care less about their obsessions. And the researcher missed all of that?
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112317564 67051012 Angelica Pennsylvania In summary: misogyny and racism are alive and thriving. 1617736817 11 0 FALSE FALSE
112317613 39291845 Sherry Washington These people are the spiritual descendants of the Confederacy who view people of different skin tones and less than adequately human. 1617737028 10 0 FALSE FALSE
112317476 88660528 R Goodman Mexico Because heaven forbid anyone other than a white christian male achieve a modicum of success in their lives. There is just so much wrong with a country that never seems to learn from its past. 1617736508 13 0 FALSE FALSE
112317495 76293719 Rene Santa Clara Quite a few well considered opinions here. I would add that many cities with high racial diversity did not send rioters to the capital. I would like to see a little more research into who these people really are. Yes, they are racist, obviously. But there is more to the story than a recent uptick in numbers of neighbors of color. 1617736579 9 0 FALSE FALSE
112316858 70455523 john keeley beavercreek oregon We (whites) are afraid the immigrants are going to treat us the way we treated them when they came here. Welcome to the history of the human race. 1617734051 9 1 FALSE FALSE
112317035 67725170 Opinioned! NYC

The year that the white people becomes the minority in the USA

It will be very beautiful to behold — for finally, the USA will be truly great and exceptional as a country.

It’s a pity Rush Limbaugh checked out early and will miss this historic moment.
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112316974 69081512 Donna Vancouver The initial hypothesis that the rioters were “ driven to violence” by the effects of the 2008 pandemic is astonishingly biased. It implies that the effects of the recession left them no other choice. So let’s extend that reasoning to black and brown people who have lived far longer under far more extreme economic hardship. They would be “driven to violence” on a proportionately larger scale, wouldn’t they? Or is that an excuse that only white people get to use? Here’s another hypothesis: racist and xenophobic beliefs drive white people to violence. I think we can find some evidence for that in the historical record. 1617734488 15 1 FALSE FALSE
112316889 66982649 DC Philadelphia

And every time an outlet like the NYT, like the Washington Post, like pretty much every media outlet puts out a story where every race or subset of a race (as in Hispanic) gets capitalized and any reference to whites is not you just drive a bigger wedge between those who are part of the white race and the rest of the country. Every time the blame for anything is placed automatically as it has been for the past year on whites, every time an attack occurs on a non-white it is now quickly reported as being by a white and then proves to be wrong the wedge gets driven deeper.

Everyone now wants to blame whites for every single thing wrong with the country. Does anyone really believe that is actually helpful?

Note that I deliberately chose to not capitalize “whites” as to not to incur the written wrath of everyone who thinks they have either woke up or are still looking for excuses for failures regardless as to the real reason it has happened.
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112318159 65165434 Will Lakewood How utterly sad. Instead of doubling down with resolve to better themselves through training and hard work, they resort to a violent, resentful sulk. Cowards when alone, puffed up bravado when in a mob. So much for the conservatives’ veneer of personal accountability. Can only hope this isn’t the new American way. 1617739074 11 0 FALSE FALSE
112317380 33069211 Rick StL “According to the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction report in 2011, the U.S. spent more than $300 million on the Sunni Awakening, paying Sunni leaders for their loyalty” <a href=“https://www.npr.org/2015/06/14/414334390/will-the-u-s-win-a-second-chance-at-a-sunni-awakening” target="_blank">https://www.npr.org/2015/06/14/414334390/will-the-u-s-win-a-second-chance-at-a-sunni-awakening</a>; 1617736103 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112316898 81943333 Ian Maitland Minneapolis

In the 2016 election, as Columbia’s Mark Lilla wrote in this newspaper, at every campaign stop Hillary Clinton called out to “African-American, Latino, L.G.B.T. and women voters.” NEVER the white working class. Elites sneer at “deplorables” who “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them.”

Is it any wonder if there is a backlash? And, if so, whose fault is it? The children of the white working class don’t qualify for a “plus factor” when they apply for admission to our best colleges. They are the wrong color. They don’t get to jump to the head of the line when it comes to getting government contracts. That is reserved for businesses with owners who are at least 25% Asian-Indian, Asian-Pacific, Black, Hispanic, or Native American. (Last time I looked, Asian-Indians had the highest average incomes in the US).

The NYT doesn’t devote acres and acres of column inches to chronicling the “disparities” between the fortunes of the white working class and other Americans in health care, access to college, and so on and on.

Why does no one dare call this racism? To add insult to injury, the woke white middle class shames the deplorables as …, you got it, “racists.”

It reminds me of that sign on a cage at a French zoo: “This animal is very wicked. If it is attacked, it defends itself.”

Good advice is: Don’t lecture America about racism, until you give up supporting policies that treat Americans differently on the basis of their skin color.
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112317514 65363201 Woody Newborn Ga Oh. I just thought they were mean. 1617736623 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112317887 71106007 Candlewick Ubiquitous Drive

Why are researchers and media folks chronically obsessed over trying to understand why people like the ones discussed- are forever fretting and “fearful” about people who have zero interest in them?

How many studies does it take to reveal stupidity, bigotry, bias, racism adnauseam ?
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112316600 71578093 Purity of Essence

Lower class whites are no more racist than the lower classes of any other race, and yet rich white liberals repeatedly fall over themselves to help the non-white lower classes whilst at the same time disparaging and refusing to lift a finger for lower-class whites. Whenever someone mentions that maybe we should include lower class whites the rich white liberals scoff at the notion, and say that those lower class whites deserve their fate because they are “racist” or “sexist” or “homophobic” or should have gone to college. But they are, as a group, no less saintly or academically-inclined than the rest of the lower classes. Funny how these rich white liberals never say that lower class blacks are deserving of their fate. Why the double standard? For a supposedly so highly educated group they seem to be completely obtuse to their own hypocrisy.

What we really see whenever lower-class whites and their struggles are brought up is the ugly, sneering, classism of the rich white liberals. Oh how wish they would leave the Democratic Party. Then it could go back to being the party of the common man and woman - all common women and men, whites included. I’m sick of voting for a hypocritical, classist, bourgeois party, which is what it has become.
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112318217 72796461 Leslie California Really, one needed to conduct a study to ascertain this? I have known this for years, ever since the data emerged indicating a white minority by 2042. I must be a genius… how did the elite miss this one? 1617739317 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112316912 75926248 Rita Philadelphia

Oh boo hoo. I was raised poor, female, and white in inner city Philadelphia. And ya know, I learned quickly that women are lesser beings. And, being white, where I came from, was not really a big advantage. But even as a poor young woman I understood the value of education, and got some. I borrowed money, yep. I invested in myself. I raised my family, I worked part time jobs while in college. I ignored all that society said about the “role” of women.

So, as a dumb poor kid I could see that the future was not gonna be given to me. Therefore, I take offense at a bunch of middle class white men using violence to assure theirs.
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112318163 72927427 ray mullen I’ve live in CA my whole life (52 years). I have yet to meet a white person who lost out on a hard labor job in the fields (or the kitchen) to a non-white person. Why? Because those are jobs ARE labor so white folks aren’t clamoring to even apply for them. Thenjobs have long hours, low pay, and hard conditions. So, I would be interested to know just what desired jobs folks from Central America are taking from the Capitol rioters. 1617739087 13 1 FALSE FALSE
112317054 40142093 Neil Brooklyn

Pape, the scientist, really thought the insurrection was the result of a recession 13 years ago?

This is what they mean by “fake news”
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112316564 91218859 Wayne California

If people think they are losing out to minorities, then what are they losing? Jobs? Opportunities? If so, why isn’t it just as bad to lose out on a job or opportunity to a white person? That’s what minority groups face, and it’s also what most white people face. White people are more likely to lose out to another white person.

Jews will not replace us? Nobody is giving preference to Jews or Asians or any minority group. People are competing against those who are equally qualified even with affirmative action.

If you think that it’s not preference but inherent ability that gives others an advantage over you, then you are being racist by insisting that white people are so inferior that they can’t compete on their own merits. If you think there’s anti-white racism, you are right but it’s coming from you.
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112316275 47112177 manfred marcus Bolivia Republican ‘white supremacists’, desperate to cling to power…to abuse, are not only a miserably rigid bunch, unable or unwilling to understand what democracy means….if it means losing, however periodically, elections; but a real danger to society…if freedom and justice and trust in democratic institutions are trampled upon. Just because this nation was born on self-promoted racist premises, doesn’t mean we cannot change for the better, thus, recognize and support the richness of our diversity…and the beauty of making ‘voting’ as easy and universal as possible, the exact opposite of the current odious push… trying to dehumanize anybody that dares challenge stupidity, always in ample supply. 1617732108 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112317067 79475351 bunny argyle,ny Everyone, regardless of “race” needs to read “Caste” by Isabel Wilkerson. Quite the eye opener 1617734828 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112317498 54971218 Angelus Ravenscroft Los Angeles

White people who took over the lands of people of color are now angry that other people of color would also like to live on that land that was stolen in the first place.

I’m a white person. I’m not especially smart and not especially eager to lose my job due to the long-overdue racial reckoning.

But I’m not ignorant enough to not get the big-picture justice of it. And I’m not stupid enough to be used as a pawn in the Right’s hate games.
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112317040 48328064 Charles Thompson Frozen Exoplanet Wow ! Mitch McConnell is telling Coca Cola, Dell, Delta and Major League Baseball to shut up and dribble. Out of the other side of his mouth campaign contributions are ok… 1617734742 10 0 FALSE FALSE
112317787 1032299 ken G bartlesville It is not only race but gender.
“Proud Boys” “Boogaloo Bois” I expect are mostly incels. The rioters were overwhelmingly male.
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112317796 48530983 Jan N Wisconsin Why are white males so afraid that they won’t be able to successfully compete with non-white people? Do they really think deep inside that they are that inferior compared to non-white people? I don’t get it. 1617737726 17 1 FALSE FALSE
112318063 27254425 Gary Connecticut

If Pape’s conclusions are right then the next question is to find the characteristics that sort out whites who fear “replacement” and are willing to resort to violence from whites who are not.

By way of hypothesis:

  1. Fox News viewers
  2. Evangelicals
  3. Militia members
  4. Misogynists
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112318064 27254425 Gary Connecticut If Pape’s conclusions are right then the next question is to find the characteristics that sort out whites who fear “replacement” and are willing to resort to violence from whites who are not.

By way of hypothesis:

  1. Fox News viewers
  2. Evangelicals
  3. Militia members
  4. Misogynists
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112317060 48154828 Adam stoler Bronx NY this whole enchilada (no pun intended) has been cooking in white resentment land for years now. The age of the angry self entitled white male

What you get when oligarchs use those way way beneath them socially/economically to stir up resentment, by dint of providing the less fortunate whites with people to look down on.

The old joke goes:

Why does Alabama exist? So people in Ga can look down on them Why does Mississippi exist? So people in Alabama can look down on them Why does Arkansas exist? So the people in Mississippi can look down on them…

Arkansas is the unspoken end of the line.

Sad to say, it’s no joke now. That’s what happens when you don’t fund and/or value good public education.
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112317286 62661042 Edward Hazart NORCAL

These regions have lived in bubbles. And right wing propaganda has spread fear and martyrdom. Even Tucker pulls out the Nazi, “They will not replace us” in subtle form constantly.

Those of us who live in multicultural areas and grew up with everyone think they are insane. They cannot be allowed to hold power. The only solution for them I see towards the rest of us is violence to remove multicultural society.

Tucker Swanson Carlson constantly waged war against multicultural open society. He says adamantly that it always fails and won’t work. And? So that only leaves rounding the rest of us up in some fashion. What other solution can they have? That includes liberal whites, union leaders and educated people.

I get them are scared of this massive change. That people that don’t look like them are moving out of expensive cities and bringing all sorts of different colors, languages and yummy food. But my goodness their desire to run around with guns and point them at the rest of us is dangerous and insane.
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112317487 87098991 James Masciandaro San Bruno, CA January 6 was clearly a rejection a multi racial democracy. Religion the root of magical thinking. Time to end religious rights facade, not compatible with human rights 1617736542 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112318014 409996 Wade Nelson Durango, Colorado

I have a Hard-working illegal immigrant friend that has stolen over 30 jobs. He keeps them in his garage. You see unscrupulous people like Unlicensed Contractors pulling up and paying cash for them. Right at daybreak usually. I don’t know how he gets away with it. He says he loves America because it is the land of opportunity oops there he goes he’s probably going to go steal another one!

The irony is that I live in Sun City Arizona staunchly republican neighborhood and I couldn’t hire a white landscaper or roofer if I tried. Whites simply don’t want to work that hard esp when it’s over 100° out.
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112316430 39591892 RH Maine

I recall that in early 2017 there was a wave of commentary citing Hillbilly Eulogy, and the like, with the lesson of Hillary’s loss attributed to ignoring those ‘deplorables.’ From my little corner, I tended to agree that the white working class poor had a legitimate gripe, as long as they avoided overt racism.

Reading this, it’s like Trump maintained this group on a low simmer, scratching their itch, but not providing flea powder. Better to maintain their anger and discontent, as long as he could rely on their support.

I still can’t understand why some of those overlooked whites never realized that they were being duped, as they continued to allow themselves be manipulated…. for free. MAGA was a source of pride and protest, but there was no payoff. Instead, they focused on the Satanic pedophilia to explain why, after 3+ years, all they had left was their anger.
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112318054 98691591 OM MT The link to Pape’s earlier findings about the suicide bombers doesn’t work. 1617738677 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112316454 101206080 William Nashville White supremacy. Clear as the noonday sun. 1617732680 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112317621 3969850 Pdxtran Minneapolis

It doesn’t help that there are organized “lecturers” who go from small town to small town, scaring ignorant people about the alleged dangers of immigration.

“The Muslim immigrants are looking to establish the Caliphate.”

“Your children will be forced to learn Spanish!” (Oh no, they’ll be required to learn a foreign language, just like schoolchildren in most countries outside the U.S.)

“Blond and blue-eyed people will become extinct!”

“The Bible will be banned!”

And their arguments go downhill from there.
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112317327 16410987 Trevor Bajus Brooklyn NY

I am shocked, shocked to find out that the people who stormed the capital to preserve Trump’s overtly racist policies are themselves racists!

Why, the next thing you know, you’ll tell me that the people who show up to the World Series are baseball fans!
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112317963 344352 Tom MA I assume that Pape is referring to the SPLC work in January when he mentions “other analysts.” He claims he’s contradicting them, but he sounds a lot like them. <a href=“https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/01/22/capitol-insurrection-shows-how-trends-far-rights-fringe-have-become-mainstream” target="_blank">https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/01/22/capitol-insurrection-shows-how-trends-far-rights-fringe-have-become-mainstream</a>; 1617738318 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112317548 74928083 sedanchair Tacoma WA Call them what they are, trash. How many syllables do I need to say it? Ta-ra-hash. There’s one kind of person who has nothing to stake their pride in but the whiteness of their skin, and that’s trash. 1617736764 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112317625 141733688 Estevan Los Angeles Someone tell Andrew Yang. 1617737066 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112316254 58998547 nixrox03 Midwest America One word: Racism Two words: White evangelicals 1617732051 15 0 FALSE FALSE
112316563 76120259 Anonymous Bioengineer Palo Alto

The NYTs campaign to alienate working class Whites continues.

Contrary to woke philosophy, racism is not unique to Whites (yes, I capitalize White).

Racism is ubiquitous in all human societies. For example, anti-Asian hatred is rampant in many African American communities. In China, foreigners are viewed as inferior in every way.

Instead of producing new Republican voters with puff pieces such as this, perhaps a little perspective, and empathy, is in order.
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112316908 62804261 Rwink5 san diego this is nothing less than WSPS; White Supremacist Panic Syndrome. 1617734261 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112317278 100093309 Rebecca CDM, CA Tell it like it is, Mr. Pape! ‘They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class (racist) whites who are worried (fearful) that, as social changes (minorities) occur (gain power) around them, they will see a decline in (have to work harder to keep) their status in the future.” 1617735636 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112317717 65820219 tombo new york state

On January 6th there were Nazi’s there. There were white supremacist militias. There were confederate flags and on and on it went with white supremacist symbols, shouts and slurs. All of it was out in the open for anyone willing to see it to do so.

Think about that. Nazi’s in 21st century America showing up to commit textbook fascist political violence against the elected representatives of the American people and they were welcomed by the then president of the United States, he even told them he “loved” them after their failed deadly attack on the Capitol, and his party.

That is Trump’s, and now the Republican Party’s, base. That is who they are. The rest of us need to accept this ugly reality about the Republican Party if we are going to defeat them and their radical agenda.
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112317553 86268169 Elizabeth Kansas Thank you for this article, Alan. Unraveling the biggest crime in US history is going to take time, and it is good to hear about preliminary findings. 1617736780 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112316986 56025659 sj kcmo Income/wealth changes since the last generation: 5% increase in BOTH income and wealth for the wealthiest in the US (that demographic probably does not include anyone of non-European descent unless they immigrated here as a professional, EB-5 investment visa holder). The rest of the top 20% includes affluent professionals. While their actual EARNED incomes have grown ONLY 1%, their WEALTH has increased by 11% (they’re the ones–also known as Other People’s Money– whom are propping up the financial markets for the wealthy majority share-owners to scoop up and concentrate further on the cheap during times of distress). The working class poor have remained static like the wealthy in their income and wealth gains, only at 1% instead of 5%. The decreasing middle class has a double-digit loss in both income and wealth….this from a graph I’ve seen in the past two years–maybe from the Upshot here. The republican party has always needed a token minority whom was happy to go along for the ride (Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, Ben Carson, for example). But this is really a war between the political party operatives over whom gets the crumbs the majority owners of this country throws to whomever is in power. Republicans used to be the party of business, but the wage slaves–white, blue, pink…whatever colored collar–are wising up. 1617734542 2 1 FALSE FALSE
112317265 89073798 Lee Rentz Stanwood, MI This should not be surprising. Surveys of the greatest problems facing America consistently have Republicans saying that illegal immigration is at or near the top of the list. The fear is visceral in these people, strong enough for them to storm their own government. 1617735571 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112317268 94522139 Marielle Detroit Please note this has been the focus of much-scholarship from sociologists, anthropologists, and others in the social sciences. Not to mention labor activists. The root cause is that there is so much intrinsic and believed value on whiteness for those now in the dominant culture. The reality is for some time, and it has been true. The ability to navigate life with value-added whiteness is at this core a non-phenomena. We see time and again when majority white populations will vote against the own interest in support of the overarching needs of rich white conservatives for the privilege of the coalescing in whiteness. The NYT did an excellent article on Obamacare. Many of those who actually benefited from it by now being able to access healthcare for themselves and their children stated they were against it. I have seen factories sail right out of this country, and the white workers rather than advocate for severance or community support telling the few whites who did support " Why work with the Blacks? If they succeed, you will get what they do anyway". This happens so often; that is why it continues to be studied. The only two books that truly get to the heart of the matter are bell hooks, Black Looks, and Andrew Hacker’s Two Nations: Black and White, Separate, Hostile, Unequal. 1617735597 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112317666 60108061 Unbalanced San Francisco

Are there any examples of the in crowd graciously giving way? Anywhere? Ever?

Everything is relative. Even if equality is achieved by improving everyone else’s condition without worsening yours, if you used to have more privilege than everyone else and now you don’t, you’ve lost something. You’ve lost your advantage. Psychology teaches that what people fear most is losing what they have. So of course the threatened loss of advantage will be resisted.
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112317270 56025659 sj kcmo

Changes in income/wealth over the past generation:

Wealthiest have increased income and wealth equally by 5% each

Affluent top 20% beneath them have only seen a 1% increase in EARNED income, but 11% increase in WEALTH….they are the Other People’s Money who is propping up assets to be bought on the cheap in distressed times and further concentrated by the wealthiest majority owners.

Working class poor’s income/wealth growth has grown equally at 1%.

Decreasing middle class has seen double digit losses in both income/wealth.

The political party operatives are fighting one another over whom gets the crumbs the majority ownership of this country will throw at them. Republicans have brought along a few token minorities who were happy to go along for the ride (think Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, Ben Carson, etc), but their party-of-business stature is being threatened because the peons–white, blue, pink, or whatever colored collar–are wising up.
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112317151 69145499 Tex Mex On The Border I am white, sixty y.o., unemployed, bachelors degree, cis male with no health care. So I could strive and complain simultaneously in late middle age limbo. But how is my station in life special, worse or more deserving than other American ? I am comfortable in my skin. I make certain to conduct myself so that anyone I meet and interact with is addressed and treated as I would hope to be treated likewise. I do take a pass on any white privilege guilt trip. My parents and grandparents supported me. They were not racist nor took advantage of persons of less advantage or resources during my upbringing. Quite the opposite, they behaved admirably towards all in the community. I do what I can to keep society equitable going forward. 1617735137 11 0 FALSE FALSE
112317747 3017703 George N. Wells Dover, NJ

Depressing and sad that Americans see rights as a fixed quantity, that when somebody is granted rights, somebody else has to lose them.

Sadder still because a lot of the white Americans ancestors came here from another country where they were persecuted and their ancestors weren’t welcomed here when they arrived. Gradually, they became the Americans we recognize. Name the nation of origin and you will find that that your ancestors were not welcomed with open arms and acceptance.

What makes anyone an American? Acceptance of the constitution and laws of this nation. Yes, it is both that simple, and that complicated.

There are those who stoke our fears of others in every nation on the planet. Sadly, the majority of nations have a basic genetic definition of who is and who isn’t one of us. America is unique in that we consider that acceptance and compliance with the constitution and laws as superior to genetic background.

Yes, America has serious problems that need to be addressed but nobody is taking or diminishing your rights even if you believe they are.
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112316960 76063078 JR SLO, CA Inequity is instability. It’s a universal “law.” If you want a stable world, equitable access for all to the means of living basically well is required. Another universal “law:” monoculture is not sustainable. Diversity is resilient, therefore: multi-culture not monoculture. Why are these so hard for so many people to understand? 1617734445 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112317037 65412302 Deborah Minneapolis

I have always been a pragmatist. Change what you can, learn how to deal w/ what you can’t. If we accept the premise widely stated that Caucasians will be in the minority by 2050 what does that mean? First, can we assume it is inevitable? Second, is that a problem for white people, and if so why? I(Personally, I think it is fear of retribution for centuries of white people bad behavior.) If it is a problem, figure out why and try to fix it. If not, then what is the issue?

I think the underlying message here is that a portion of white America sees their primacy threatened, and that scares the pants off of them. So. Do we try to allay those fears or not bother knowing that time will take care of the issue for us?

Civilizations rise, civilizations fall. Where are we on the continuum?
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112317255 4821348 Dave R NYC This was one of those moments when I thought I might be reading The Onion. Seriously, take a look at the crowds of people who attend Trump rallies. 1617735541 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112317454 76702267 Nathan Tulsa, OK I live in Oklahoma, so I have encountered a LOT of people in this group. What I think really drives all their political behavior is the terror that they may not be able to tell themselves they are in control of their own lives/destinies and the lives of their children anymore. The mythology (and it is that) of the American Dream has its hooks DEEP in this demographic, and they see “other/s” as a threat to their claim on that mythology. They aren’t able to see that they’ve already achieved the American dream as it was defined in the 40s-60s. They also don’t see the mammoth social problems that plague black and brown Americans as good per say (they mostly really aren’t sociopaths), they just see them as somebody else’s problem. The “rugged individualism” of the American psych has so embedded itself into their cosmology that they really don’t believe they are responsible for anything other than they and their own family’s well-being. Black people’s problems are just that. This demographic’s problem (in their mind) is to hold on to their place in the mythic structure they think defines their place in the world. From there, everything about our politics makes a lot more sense. 1617736424 10 0 FALSE FALSE
112317505 49975250 arusso or

“But instead he found something very different: Most of the people who took part in the assault came from places, his polling and demographic data showed, that were awash in fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people in American politics and culture.”

Even if they do not consciously realize it, these people are pushing back against loss of the head start they have had for generations.

“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”

― Franklin Leonard
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112317611 139792 Timothy Jackson Atlanta As a 59 year old white man, I get what a lot of these commenters are saying - there ARE a lot of blatant racists in this country. I was fortunate enough to be in the USAF, deployed in Germany at the height of the Cold War with an Army anti missile unit comprised of mostly Black men. We lived, trained and played together and I learned they were no different than me, hungered and thirsted, were patriots, wanted to better themselves, loved their wives and children just as I did. Some of us were from rural areas, some from cities. We had our differences but the slightest hint racism WAS NOT TOLERATED by enlisted or officers commanders, with severe penalties handed out to offenders. Today I live in a military community in the deep south where the Black population is ~30%. I see my Black and Hispanic neighbors as Americans; with the same hopes and dreams for their families as I have for mine. I believe this type of common service experience would solve most of our race based problems in America today, 2 years of some sort of compulsory national service before college, working side by side, perhaps at rebuilding hard and soft infrastructure would highlight our commonality instead of our differences. This would probably be anathema to our ruling class who thrive by dividing us by class and race. Best reason I can think of to do it. 1617737014 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112317745 41372884 Lois Morrison, CO

Being white and trying always to respect every person and learn about their life experiences even if I will never fully understand them, I am always amazed by the “tales” white people tell themselves.

I live in a rural area and horrified at the George Floyd killing, and a host of others that had occurred during the same time period. I attempted to talk to a neighbor–who fired back that no one had made a fuss about a white Idaho rancher who was supposedly shot by a State Policeman after he called for help when a cow had been hit on the highway. I researched the story online and found it was a far different story occurring several years ago.

It was a killing of an Idaho rancher–but the culprit was a white rural volunteer deputy sheriff who had serious mental issues. It was a single tragic event and nothing like the torture and death of Mr. Floyd and the domestic terrorism committed by the police officers present on the people of that community. But it was just another story white people tell themselves to justify their callous attitudes toward people they view as unlike them.
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112316962 17374907 Blackmamba IL

The white European American Judeo-Christian majority is rapidly aging and shrinking with a below replacement level birthrate.

Coupled with a decreasing white European American Judeo-Christian life expectancy due to alcoholism, drug addiction,depression,suicide and COVID-19.

Republicans represent the dreams, fears,hopes and nightmares of the white European American voting majority.

Trump won 58% of the white European American voting majority in 2016 among 63 million American voters. Trump won 74 million American voters in 2020 including 57% of the white European American voting majority.

McCain won 57% of the white voting majority in 2008. Romney won 59% in 2012.

Democrats have won the white European American voting majority since the Presidential election of 1964.

While the Republican Party of Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S.Grant and Dwight D.Eisenhower has devolved into the party of Jefferson Davis, Woodrow Wilson and Strom Thurmond.

Whomever Republican will win 57% of the white European American voting majority in 2024.

With the Senate, the Electoral College and the Supreme Court of the United States and state’s rights sovereignty giving hope of exploiting our very peculiar divided limited different power constitutional republic of united states in order to frustrate any delusions of democracy.
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112317141 25963862 FightForWhatisRight1776 New York All of this should be obvious. What isn’t obvious is why Trump hasn’t been arrested for his role in the Capitol attack. 1617735086 9 0 FALSE FALSE
112317382 26796617 TK Sung SF

Just about everybody and their cousins knew that the rioters were mostly white nationalists and evangelicals. The real question is why Mr. Pape “expected to find that the rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession”. Maybe he mixed up 2008 with 1789 and the rioters with the French under Louise XVI.

I think what’s happening in some parts of the country is a part of a normal integration process: 1) when a few outsiders move in, they are a novelty; 2) when more comes, they become a threat; 3) when even more comes, people get used to each other and it becomes a new normal. (Well, at least till Trump agitate people against each other). The area where the rioters come from are going through the stage 2 and will eventually become stable when they arrive at the minority-majority state. It’s just a growing pain and we just need to make sure that the condition that made Trump possible won’t happen again by helping working/middle class people to stay afloat and get ahead.
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112316997 72296649 TS Washington Excellent insights! The similarity between the motivations of Capitol rioters and Middle Eastern suicide bombers highlights the common human elements to these seemingly disparate events. Once again, this underscores why science-based policy and decision making is so essential! 1617734602 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112317129 56205908 Dave k Florida Whenever I tell people that possibly within our lifetime Hispanics will be the majority race in America, they get angry and argue about losing their country. I really don’t know how to respectfully respond to such ignorance without calling someone ignorant, which some people take as a bad word. I am Anglo-Saxon with my genealogy being that of England, Wales and Ireland. My best friend is Puerto Rican, which I never think about because he is my friend, period. I grew up on the poorer end of lower middle class without the privilege some classmates had, but I never took for granted that I didn’t have to grow up being called names because of my race. I know what scared to lose a job feels like but I never blamed blacks or Hispanics for it. 1617735052 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112317665 62531032 Randy Boulder CO The perception among threatened whites seems to be that constitutional rights are a zero sum game; that there are only a limited number of rights to go around and that theirs are somehow diluted or damaged or diminished if previously marginalized groups become more fully enfranchised. 1617737224 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112316973 64397379 Deirdre New Jersey

You would think these people who feel their status is threatened would support the only party advocating for infrastructure spending but they are not.

If these folks are fearful of others taking their place it is entirely due to their inability to think critically . They support fascist and autocratic leaders who drain their country of funds and resources by giving it all to the wealthy .

Good jobs, healthcare, affordable child care, and low cost college are all good things that help us all. Unfortunately, these people can’t think past their own fears.
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112317194 125034 ABS from COS

>“middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future”

Ironic. The only thing that causes a decline in their status is their own actions.
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112317320 21118985 cre8 Lower Hudson Valley This isn’t news to anyone of color. especially those of us who have succeeded academically, socially, career-wise. Minorities are intelligent, motivated and willing to work hard to succeed. Isn’t that the American dream? Yet, minorities who succeed are targets of resentment, hatred, vicious lies, and sabotage meant to undermine hard-won achievements by those who fear losing their superiority. If white people are so fearful of losing out, maybe they can find ways to elevate themselves by elevating their communities, not destroy it through hatred and violence. 1617735812 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112317496 94586587 Jim Idaho

It is utterly baffling to me that 5 years into the era of Trumpism, credible media authorities and political figures still ascribe the movement to economics. That is crazy. These people are obviously ivory tower eggheads who have not spent so much as one single minute with one single Trump loyalist.

Trumpers are motivated by racism, they’ve always been motivated by racism and will continue to be motivated by racism going forward. I live among the densest concentration of Trumpers in the country, and I was a cop, a profession riddled with Trump loyalty. These people are pretty clear as to what motivates them.

Anyone who has only a few brief conversations with the average Trump loyalist will know they are motivated primarily by racial fears over any other issue. It is so clear that it is beyond stupefying that any credible researcher could come to any other conclusion. Such researchers must not get out much.
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112317583 50767647 lansford Toronto, Canada Who are these people who always hate?. From the article, it seems that there is a group of people who hate others whether they’re from Africa, Italy or elsewhere. Just why haven’t these people been studied to the max?. It seems to me that they are extremely dangerous to the future of democracy. 1617736888 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112317816 15562848 Jack Austin

Haven’t read Anne Applebaum’s book Twilight of Democracy but read the related essay in the Atlantic she wrote first, and read some of her book promotion interviews.

My main takeaway from what she had to say was that there’s an important difference between people whose status and livelihood is tied in large measure to their ability to achieve status within a dominant group using the sorts of skills that came in handy on school playgrounds and in school lunchrooms and that continue to come in handy later in life when dealing with people who possess some sort of power within a group; and people whose status and livelihood is tied in large measure to their ability to solve problems and accomplish tasks in reasonably well-paying jobs.

I think it’s important to keep this distinction in mind when generalizing about groups of people sorted according to age, race, gender, or geographic locality.
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112316554 30210067 Lisa Henderson Philadelphia PA And water is wet. 1617733030 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112317602 82030961 Steve Washington diversity is here and it isn’t going away. white male dominance will soon be a thing of the past. it’s either accept it and work with it or perish under the weight of your own ignorance. 1617736961 13 0 FALSE FALSE
112316516 74607732 SAH Connecticut This is nothing new ask and black person in America. Trump is the best WORST THING to happen to America. These people would rather see the country burndown rather than exist with humanity 1617732916 10 0 FALSE FALSE
112317623 66916753 Jim Montgomery County, PA all of this because a black guy tried to fix the health care system 1617737059 18 1 FALSE FALSE
112316139 70996289 susan CA for god’s sake white people! relax! nobody is trying to replace you, and there is enough to go around! take a moment, or many, to really put yourself in truly oppressed and targeted people’s shoes. work on empathy, not just from your white perspective. understand the concept of micro agressions and how you might be doing it all day long with your Black Lives Matter bumper sticker. take a lesson from POC, immigrants, and other historically constantly beat down americans( who’ve just wanted to live their lives without organized,often brutal interference)- work honest/hard, take care of your familes/neighbors, be kind, give back your fair share, mind your own business, embrace democracy, don’t be a damned hypocrite, and have faith in your fellow citizens and our beautifully flawed country. 1617731688 14 0 FALSE FALSE
112317188 62271221 Sarah Knoxville, TN Charles Barkley (yes, the basketball player) had it correct years ago when he characterized the typical Trump voter as, “These are people who can’t look in the mirror and admit, ‘My life sucks because of me.’” 1617735273 37 2 FALSE FALSE
112317471 13798119 RB TX

If these white thugs represent the American white race of today maybe it’s best they are replaced, voted out of office at least until they can act like a civilized people……….

Violence and anger do not make one “civilized”, But, Left uncontrolled it does make one a thug - see the U S Capitol on Jan 6, 2021 if you need a reference………
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112317687 58135798 Mack New England

Why is it impossible to understand that, from the perspective of the average heterosexual white person, it boils down to fear of discrimination? What proof is there that if whites are in the minority that their rights won’t be trampled on; that they won’t be subject to discrimination?

In their eyes, heterosexual whites born after 1964 see a world perpetuating two sets of rules and standards. We need to improve the representation of Black Americans to equal their proportion of the population in professions where they are “underrepresented” but this notion of proportionality is confusing and a little hypocritical. Are we “righting” historic wrongs by perpetuating future ones? Why is no one is demanding the NBA hire more non-Black players? Are we supposed to see color? Not see color? Why is it OK for Black Americans to use the “N” word? Conversely, where’s the outrage when Black heterosexual rappers use the “F” word?

The conversation needs to start with, “no one is interested in hurting you further…” and it needs to be said to both Black and white Americans (and every other “American”). We all need to listen and learn more.
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112317697 63533354 Prof. Ron Oregon USA

Robert Pape’s study finds that many of the insurrectionists of January 6 come from predominantly white communities marked by “…fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people in American politics and culture.”

What still needs to be explained is WHY people who come from such communities – or anyone – would think that extending the same rights that white people enjoy to minorities and immigrants could result in “…crowding out the rights of white people….”

One possible explanation is that some white people in America simply do not understand the concept of “rights” that is fundamental to any democracy. To think that ones rights will be “crowded out” if others have the same rights seems to derive from a belief that that rights are like power and privilege, which would be diluted or diminished if shared among too many people. But rights do not work that way. Rights are strengthened when they are held in common among all the members of a community or society.

One ominous implication of Mr Pape’s study seems to be that there are predominantly white communities in America in which our fellow citizens no longer understand the meaning of rights in a democracy, and are now just concerned about losing what they imagine to be their race-based entitlements of power and privilege to newly arriving people who are more determined to learn, work, and get ahead than they are.
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112314701 139165824 Caesius LINY

Status…thats the race based code of choice now. Its like “law and order” campaign rhetoric referring to black and other non-white communities. Status, in this white fear based rhetoric is simply referring to Caste. Whites, no matter their economic conditions, must always remain in the top tiers of the castes. And all non whites, black brown and all others in the lowest. In the Indian system..the Dalits, the outcasts.

Polling has long shown that even poor, disadvantaged whites would prefer not to get any aid, so to prevent it going to non whites, or those deemed “others”.

Zero sum gain mentality among many whites is literally, seriously hurting and very often killing them and their family. The concept of raising all boats just does not penetrate. Its such a deep and belligerent, knee jerk mentality. it might be genetic…
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112314097 51878992 Socrates Downtown Verona, NJ

The leading indicators of a 2016 Trump voter was distance from a city AND a total lack of diversity in their hometowns…..in other words, voters from all-white communities who barely know a person of color were and are the most fervent supporters of Trump.

White nativists have formed the core of Trumpism since 2015 when he started campaigning.

The Jan 6 2021 attack on the United States Capitol was just a continuation of that Whites R Us Trump-inspired glide path.

They just can’t get past the color of their own milky white skin…..and are thrilled to reject democracy for the sake of their own pigmentation.

There’s nothing kind to be said of these folks.
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112314011 84894123 Lonnie Brooklyn, NY

We are in the middle of a deep, but simple Social Inflection Point– We are now Living in an America that Elected had no problem electing a Black Man to the White House.

This is now the America where an Asian American can be head of a major corporation– not a server in an ethnic restaurant. This is now the America where just being White, Male with just a High School diploma no longer gives you first dibs on ANY job where you are given grace to ‘Learn the Ropes’.

You now have to COMPETE with OTHER Americans.

This is now the America where the rest of US don’t have to stand back and obey all the small, unwritten racist rules that stood in our way– despite our efforts, despite our sacrifices, despite our education.

This is the America where we no longer hear words: “That’s jus’ the way we do things aroun’ he’ah. That’s jus’ the way it is.”

They want the America of 1950 to somehow come back around. The core issue is STILL Economic. The Economy of that OLD America always reserved a good seat at the Table of Competition for these under-skilled Whites. But Corporate America NO LONGER NEEDS THEM.

Us Non-white Folks had nothing to do with it. And this is no longer the America where we will stand aside in the gutter to let them pass. And the irony is that most of them were never even yet BORN during those old glory days of the 50’s

Change and Adapt with the rest of US…or lay down, close your eyes and use that Battle Flag as your shroud.
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112313339 68384978 Sheilawm Roseville, MN Fellow white people. If you fear you are losing out to brown or black people go look in the mirror. Need more work skills? Get them. Need more education? Get it. Need more self esteem? Angry? Get a therapist. Need more empathy toward your fellow man? Find a group of friends who care about everyone and the earth. As a 17-year old single mother 52 years ago–I did all the above. Life is good. I know who I am. I am retired from a great career and I am at peace. 1617723992 200 5 FALSE FALSE
112313141 62513709 Jon Portland, OR To the privileged, equality feels like oppression. 1617723501 1237 27 FALSE FALSE
112314578 7139615 J. Swift US This explains how a person could vote Obama and then trump. Their fears were calmed by Obama and inflamed by trump. Now they are calmed by Biden. The fears are still there. They shouldn’t expect to conquer their fears through the ballot. 1617727268 8 1 FALSE FALSE
112316671 89971750 AlNewman Connecticut The loss of status among the white working class is real. Middle-class jobs have been shipped overseas since the late ‘60s and real wages for an entire swath of people have stagnated. I grew up in suburbia on a half acre with two cars in the garage, I and my brothers went to college, all on an engineer’s salary. You can’t do that today. One of the solutions to the fears and anxieties of not only whites but to the underclass in this society is Biden’s agenda: heavy spending on infrastructure, generous transfer payments, union organization and greater access to health care. An economic boom is in the making. The question is whether working class whites will be able to resist right-wing rhetoric about socialism as they see their fortunes improve. Let’s hope. 1617733418 20 0 FALSE FALSE
112315895 50180668 Talbot New York

The US is the first industrialized country where the majority are transitioning to minority status.

It’s already occurred for kids and will be populatiin wide in 20 years.

There is nothing to compare this to. It hasn’t happened before.

I suggest we pay close attention to the reactions.
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112316276 60407145 Mike L SC This fear unfortunately is rooted in some truth. Born in 1966, by the 1990’s I noticed that I was up against reverse discrimination in my chosen profession. You see, the company I worked for had just lost a big lawsuit in California and had to promise to hire more women & minorities. Well, what they did was simply to stop hiring white males and only hired women & minorities for some years. That put me behind by years, I almost gave up. I know guys who got the position by lying on the application about their heritage. I also noticed it in my college admissions. I ended up having to apply as a commuter and get a local apartment because the competition with girls & minorities was so intense. I have always said that there will never be true equality until everyone is treated equally and there are no ‘special exceptions’ just because of your race or sex. But that is just not the case and so the cycle goes on. 1617732111 8 1 FALSE FALSE
112316428 66011631 Kathy SF Everyone needs to study hard and work hard. People could learn a lot about both if they tried. I’d be more sympathetic if these people were as concerned about other people, animals, and our environment as they are about themselves. 1617732608 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112316599 56811715 John C. Van Nuys Crawfordsville, IN In my 150 unit apartment complex, there are 3 vehicles with “Three Percenter” decals. The county in which I am a pastor was ranked in the top 10 Indiana counties for opioid addiction. Our county ranks well above the state average for child abuse and neglect, which stems largely from parental drug use. 50% of county students qualify for free and reduced lunches. One in every 3 county children suffers food insecurity. The recent arrival and modest success of Hispanics has, through no fault of their own, underscored the slide of increasing white intergenerational poverty. If coastal Democrats can find reasonable, heartland Republicans and labor together to address these root causes, progress is possible. If not, future Trumpian figures will exploit grievance, racism, and despair, resulting in more tragedies like January 6. 1617733183 5 2 FALSE FALSE
112316883 66854997 annberkeley2008 Toronto The findings in this article are actually quite shocking. All the press coverage of visits to diners in Trump-voting areas led me to believe that people were hurting economically and were clinging to the ex president as a sort of lifeline. Now to find his voters are relatively comfortably off and just Trump-flag waving and screaming for nothing makes me feel sick. I did hear that many of those arrested after the Capitol attack were either known to the police or had been through bankruptcies so I don’t know where that fits…. 1617734149 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112316142 48066155 BW Brooklyn

To my fellow White brethren,

It’s time to face the music. The United States is looking more and more like the rest of the world: multicultural, multiracial, and diverse in spiritual traditions.

There’s nothing to be afraid of. It’s not a zero-sum game, in which the advancement of others means a step backwards for us.

If you befriend someone from a different religious, political, or cultural tradition than yours, you’ll see that only good can come from a respect for diversity.
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112316333 51574556 Edwina New York

@Gregory Paul. I feel like your comment and mindset is indicative of “white privilege”. There are two major hierarchies in this country - a social hierarchy and an economic hierarchy. The two major hierarchies certainly interact with one another, but the social hierarchy has always been the more important of the two. Since the inception of the USA, a social hierarchy of whites on top has been used to justify the maltreatment of Native Americans, Black Americans, and immigrants.

The social hierarchy remains more important in contemporary society. For example, ask any affluent to wealthy African-American if their financial status has inoculated them from racism and racial prejudice in the USA, you will hear a resounding and universal “No”. There is no amount of money that enables POC to escape racism in the USA.

Likewise, review Robert Pape’s research more closely, the treasonous, insurrectionists were largely from middle and upper middle class backgrounds. This is consistent with other data on trump supporters, their average income is $75K. It’s not economic anxiety or their standing in the economic hierarchy that is unsettling to them, rather it is the dismantling of the social hierarchy in which “whiteness” is presumed to be “superior”.

My question is why do these white Americans lack self-esteem (e.g. have a psychological need to believe they are superior to POC) and lack self-efficacy (unwillingness to compete on a fairer playing field)?
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112316699 66165744 Constant Reader California Even though this is based on small numbers at a single event compared to the entire country, or to the parts of it with declining white population, this looks right on target. Some of the comments below are grasping at straws to avoid it, but some get it clearly. Its implications are terrifying, and it is what the Republican Party, which will stop at nothing, has come to represent. We need not only a renewed Voting Rights Act, we need a renewed Civil Rights Act, both with serious enforcement. 1617733482 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112315929 74739183 Red State Blue Woman Pacific NW

Mack in New England- I believe your idea would carry more weight if you fleshed it out a bit more:

What exactly do we need to hear from White Americans in order to understand what they are going through? BTW - I am an old white woman that grew up in a overwhelmingly white state.

What problems are you encountering that are caused by your race, gender or sexuality?

How is the push for equality (not equal outcome) for all humans impacting you and your family/friends?

How is the discussion of historical racism and sexism in the United States affecting you?

Once again, I am a white woman, and I can honestly say that I do not feel as if I have been impoverished, discriminated against or negatively impacted by increased equality.

I do agree with you, everyone needs to be heard, but that does not mean that we will agree.
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112316170 55920940 D. DeMarco Baltimore

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”

An awful lot of Republicans, many of the Trumpers, have a lot of problems with this concept. I think most are afraid they will have to work as hard as women and minorities do.
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112316517 73420560 steve schaffer oakland, CA I couldn’t care less about the racial makeup of “who is in charge” but I don’t feel the need to financially support the people or give them unfair advantages such as affirmative action, quotas, and language forgiveness. Nothing like being capable, qualified, and honestly assessed to elevate a society. 1617732919 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112316864 66983264 Heather Tennessee

The bigger picture is that there’s a power struggle going on and the white Republican side has been strategically organizing for years. They have been stockpiling grievances and also weapons. And within certain circles, they have normalized talk of killing members of groups demonized as enemies.

We write and talk like this is a matter of individuals developing opinions and acting more or less independently. What they are developing is far more organized and dangerous than media coverage suggests. We are headed to a point where activists, journalists, and politicians fear for their lives if they do something that white supremacists disagree with. The danger doesn’t just come from overt threats and obvious attacks; it starts with people self-censoring out of fear. Then the threat grows, un-reported on (or reported on in a wishy-washy way).

Now is the time to push back, to make sure that we don’t end up like countries where activists and journalists risk being killed for their work. The attack on the Capitol is evidence that it can happen here.
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112316239 4670327 zumzar nyc I hope that Trump followers take a note on how many people around their beloved leader faced jail sentences because they got involved with Trump’s dirty work. Starting from the people who worked for his campaign and the cabinet, his lawyers and family members. What is noticeable is how quickly he ditched them once they were no longer needed or became too much of the political or legal risk for him. 1617732011 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112316513 56095671 Amelia Northern California It was and has never been about “economic anxiety.” 1617732907 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112316836 18080714 WhiteBearLake US

The great equalizer is education.

If you don’t get at minimum a high school education, you will turn out to be economically disadvantaged black or white.

If minorities want to achieve, they have to keep their children in school. The drop out rate for minorities is abysmal. We blame the teachers, we blame the money (not enough) we blame everybody but the parents.

No one dares blame the parents. I went to schools that had upwards to 40 children in a class. We learned. We were expected to learn.

Stop spending money on schools. Spend money reaching out to parents. If you cannot bluntly say to parents your children get 12+ years of education free and if you do not take advantage of it, they will be poor for the rest of their lives.

And perhaps we should re-institute night school for dropouts who have figured out their lives and are willing learn and be examples for their own children.

And as a privileged white person, I want to see privileged minorities. The more, the better.
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112316922 60790181 William Case United States

The Census Bureau projects that whites, who made up 97.5 percent of the U.S. population in 2014, will make up 76.3 percent of the U.S. population in 2060, if current immigration trends continue. It projects that non-Hispanic whites will decrease from 77.5 percent of the population in 2014 to 68.5 percent in 2060. The other 31.5 percent of the white population would be whites who immigrated to America from Spanish-speaking countries or Hispanic whites who have an ancestor who immigrated from a Spanish-speaking country.

However, it is unlikely that a distinction between non-Hispanic whites and Hispanic whites will be made in 2060. Intermarriage between Non-Hispanic whites and Hispanic whites is becoming as much the rule as the exception, especially in our most populous states—California and Texas.

Source: Table 2 (Population by Race and Hispanic Origin), Projections of the Size and Composition of the U..S: 2014 to 2060, page 9.

<a href=“https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/demo/p25-1143.pdf” target="_blank">https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/demo/p25-1143.pdf</a>;
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112316790 90234992 Howard Gregory Hackensack, N.J.

For people of color, many of whom have experienced racism in many forms throughout their lives, white cultural resentment is very old news though I concede that it is nice to have the support of a scientific study to bolster our belief that America continues to have a serious racism problem. Conservatives have been stoking the flames of white cultural resentment to win the political support of working-class white voters for several decades. The culture war has replaced conservative economic theory as the Republican Party’s main campaign and recruitment weapon. Additionally, the FBI has known for years that the lion’s share of America’s political violence is being committed by far-right, white-identity political groups. So, the recent pro-Trump Capitol Riot by members of far-right groups and others who support their racist beliefs is not surprising. What is disturbing is the FBI’s greater focus on Black political activists despite overwhelming statistical evidence that the far-right is a superior threat to domestic security. The ACLU is even reporting that the bureau has reprised its defunct domestic counterintelligence program and is targeting Black political activists. It would be great if Mr. Pape, The Times, The Washington Post, and the Congress would investigate this matter along with our domestic counterterrorism effort to ensure compliance with our Constitution and our laws.

<a href=“https://fair.org/home/the-fbi-appears-to-be-engaged-in-a-modern-day-version-of-cointelpro” target="_blank">https://fair.org/home/the-fbi-appears-to-be-engaged-in-a-modern-day-version-of-cointelpro</a>/
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112316856 140527273 Tim NYC

I think it’s quite funny how when BLM protests were lighting police stations on fire the liberal media said it was just a healthy response to injustice, but when Trump supporters do a similar thing it gets covered from every possible angle for 3 months and counting.

Maybe stop worrying so much about the motive and instead just universally condemn violence?
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112316893 94828425 Joe Bear, DE Trying to remember the last time I saw the word “white” written or spoken in any positive way in a news article/report. Not that I expect to see a headline that says, “White man saves drowning child”, but every time I see an article with the word white in the headline, I know where we’re headed. Asking for a friend. 1617734188 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112316900 47074079 samuelclemons New York In our society money=class except for Trump and Kardashian and a whole host of others. How do we see ourselves, our reflection when we look in a mirror. Who are we mabye we were never Norman Rockwell’s America mabye pirates with greenbacks and the rest is mythos. 1617734213 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112316833 68272250 Azad Husain Guyana Until some academic research is done to examine the loss of jobs by White Americans to immigrants (legal and undocumented, mostly non-white), the idea of White privilege will continue to resonate. And, as Chris Rock has demonstrated by noting that none of his mostly White audience would trade their place with him as a very rich Black man, White people are very aware of their White privilege. It is telling that the White people from mostly White communities are the ones most likely to buy into the false narrative that immigrants are replacing them. 1617733956 431 25 TRUE FALSE
112316160 56369083 PAB Maryland Are white people actually concerned about the turning of the tables? That they will be told to go back to where they came from, that they will be attacked on the street, that their loved ones will be choked or shot to death by a police officer? Are they concerned about being stereotyped by employers because their first names are Karen or Brad? Do they think medical doctors will ignore their symptoms and undertreat their pain, because you know how those people are? Are they concerned that they will earn 60 cents for every dollar a black man earns? Are they concerned about being the last hired and the first fired? Maybe they are worried that their children will be automatically placed in the school to prison pipeline? Maybe they’re concerned that their houses will appraise hundreds of thousands of dollars below the market value? Are these the reasons white people and Republican politicians believe insurrection, voter suppression, and Trump are the answers to their survival? 1617731759 970 35 TRUE FALSE
112315960 65364600 Daniel De Simone New Jersey

“He expected to find that the rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession.”

Why on earth is anyone still making that assumption? We’ve long known that people of low-to-mid income households were more likely to vote against Trump, while people with higher incomes disproportionately supported Trump.

It’s also been proven again and again that holding racist views is the greatest predictor of Trump support, and people who hold misogynistic beliefs also disproportionately support Trump.

I know the country was enamored of the “guy I met in an Ohio diner” unified theory of the Trump era, but if we let that repeatedly debunked theory finally die, we wouldn’t be surprised every time someone re-proves that the Trump coalition was motivated almost entirely by racial resentment.
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112316491 73094110 MDH Long Beach, CA

In most mainstream media, the NYT no exception, white people who dislike demographic changes in their neighborhoods are excoriated as racists and supremacists. People of color who do the same are portrayed as fighting the good fight against gentrification and trying to preserve community.

It would be nice to see more nuanced, less emotionally-driven coverage of the very real issue of how we balance the natural desire of people to live where they feel at home against the larger societal needs to integrate, welcome immigrants and achieve genuine equality.
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112316250 33968384 Lissa Virginia I wish he’d ask these folks what policies Trump enacted that spoke to them. 1617732042 9 0 FALSE FALSE
112315807 49354039 Adam Oakland, Ca A key to this mindset is the fervent belief in a zero sum game. To them, new faces in addition to yours does not equal 1+1; it cancels you out. Hence, it’s never about lifting up, it’s about ensuring that others stay down. And despite millenia of evidence to prove that human interaction with other groups leads to countless and profound benefits, for some bizarre reason, xenophobia is embraced with a near religious fervor.  Less spoken about is how this translates into foreign trade, which we too often think of in these battle-like terms. Let’s be clear: another country’s economic development does not come at our expense. If another nation produces a vaccine, we benefit. 1617730803 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112316238 63368360 JHM UK I am not surprised. This is xenophobia and sadly by those who have lost out the most perhaps in American society owed to their lack of education – parents who did not care or provide guidance, and/or personal decisions by these people not to do the hard work to succeed in a more fast-paced, complex workplace. Nowadays even with University education one must pick carefully, and it is not surprising that the “immigrant” or the young person from a family which is involved is more ready to make the required sacrifices to achieve. Come on White parents, wake up and stop blaming those who are geared for success or hard work. You have only yourselves to blame. 1617732009 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112316303 70505918 BeTheChange FL That county list is a must-have for the next Green Book editions 1617732193 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112316186 65669409 Syliva Pacific Northwest It’s not at all hard to see how some white people think that people of color and poor people are being “privileged” over white people. At colleges, the appearance is strong. Also, in the voices we increasingly hear from in the media. Even if the truth is that things are just being made equitable, that equity shift will be happening on a societal level. On an individual, case-by-case level it will sometimes feel different. So if you are ineligible for a certain scholarship, internship or other opportunity because you are not low income, or a person of color, it’s going to feel like others have more opportunity than you do. Because in that one single instance, they do. There may be historical reasons why it might be “fair” for others to have those opportunities and not you, but it’s not gonna feel fair to you in the moment. And then if you get called a racist for commenting on what feels unfair to you, you might just start looking for company on the internet. 1617731834 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112316576 2373247 David G Monroe NY

Unlike Trump’s rhetoric, it’s not a zero-sum game.

If various groups are lifted up, we are all lifted up. Think back to the 1900 era, when the immigrant Irish/Italians/Jews were considered lower than the dirt.

In one or two generations, these immigrants became not only integrated, but absolutely crucial to America’s success.

We all gain.
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112316582 60462368 Jeff Oregon Yes, the conservative movement has always existed to help white people and keep them in power. 1617733111 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112316212 49734012 Matt Andersson Chicago The “study” was commissioned. Operations by Special Activities always have ex post studies. 1617731946 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112316635 77509251 Bob Santos Rhode Island

Mr. Feuer writes, “…the racial and cultural anxieties that lay beneath the riot at the Capitol are not going away,” and that this is a movement of people who have “put violence at its core.” We are also informed that “only” 10 percent of them are members of “established [!] far-right [!!] organizations”.

This is appalling.

For decades these people have been manipulated by a cynical elite and an increasingly revanchist Republican party to feel this way. Technology has aided their message as it spread from 24 cable newsertainment to insular social media pods where lies replace reality.

Now thoroughly programmed, they are easily manipulable pawns sent to attack the institutions of our democracy. Well, we need to start taking mass-deprogramming seriously. We need to look at who and how they are being turned into revolutionaries.

So, any “racial and cultural anxieties” need to be put to bed. It’s absurd. Make them go away. The media we count on for honest journalism needs to step up and not serve as a mouthpiece amplifying their false, illegitimate grievances. The Democrats need to support growth and reinvestment. The courts need to justly sentence those who instigate or act on their violent impulses.
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112315818 47231823 Paul Brooklyn

Your piece is 100% accurate and a history lesson but you don’t print one word on how to prevent it.

The way you prevent it is by following the gold standard leader, Lincoln. He brought the people together and eschewed the extremes, rebels and radical republicans.

Insist on things a majority of Americans need of all races like health care, infrastructure spending, blue collar job renewal etc.

Eschew identity social engineering obsession, white privilege talk, generational shaming, woke politics, defunding the police, minority entitlement, anarchy etc.

Also instead of a Lincoln/Douglass team, the gold standard we were stuck with Trump and Rev. Al. two camera hungry idea bankrupt demagogues who would not know a solution if it was handed to them.
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112315797 81952253 Diann Tennessee “The Great Replacement”, my foot. The article refers to TGR as a fringe right wing theory but avoids using the term racism, even as it mentions the Klan resurgence of WW1 but avoids the original Klan formation after the Civil War. Racists are afraid of losing power. They’ll destroy democracy to before they will countenance equality with other races. This is racism. Terminology matters. 1617730763 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112315803 61507714 O USA People with money have privilege, that’s it. 1617730791 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112316010 53771228 BB Chicago Prof. Pape’s report has a remarkable omission. Notwithstanding the giant crucifix, the insurrectionists’ kneeling in Christian prayer before they launched their assault on the Capitol and the triumphant prayer to Jesus once they had seized the Senate chamber, not to mention the Christian Bible and all the Christian rhetoric, he doesn’t even allow the question of religion in his questionnaire. Per Prof. Pape, none of what we saw on video footage and in pictures ever happened in reality. The FBI should be watching certain Christian sects that have organized around Trumpism and treason. Christian churches should be called to account to root out their hateful anti-Semitic liturgies. With distinguished researchers like Prof. Pape sweeping religion under the rug, Christianity is not going to get the scrutiny needed to protect us. 1617731344 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112316387 85604507 Buzz D NYC

I’m white, have been woke for many years, and know beyond a shadow of doubt that white people have reaped the majority of benefits in America just because they are in the majority in America. Privilege is Privilege. I’ve been given many, many breaks in my white life just because of the color of my skin and my maleness. Which was wrong.

Those disenfranchised white people who believe Black Americans, immigrants, gays, Asians, Latinos, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and others are the problems within America must have never looked in the mirror to see that many of “their” problems in life are self inflicted and exacerbated, inflammed, and pursued by wealthy White Americans playing the race card, over, and over and over. to maintain the White Status Quo.
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112316543 1902242 Carlton Brooklyn,N.Y. “They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.” It’s not just the middle and upper class, the poor are the real foot soldiers when it comes to abject cruelty and violence. From the Civil War thru Jim Crow and the Civil Rights era of the fifties and sixties, poor whites have a manufactured fear of losing “status” as well. 1617733010 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112316736 146601129 Tim WV

This study doesn’t surprise me. People like things simple, black and white, no grey. There is their group and everyone else at all kinds of level. White families have less kids than Black or Hispanics. But single female Black moms is way larger. When hear about welfare babies, they are talking about these female households. For the Latin American immigrants, they are brown and look like Muslims or whatever other negative connotation that someone comes up with. We as a species have a long way still to overcome some of the biases, because left to their own devices, people will group together which goes against the idea of getting involved in diversity.

Now on this note, I am going to criticize the Democrats. They have been falling into this trap. They used to be about the working people, regardless of race, sex, religion and sexual orientation. But they become more focused on the race, sex, religion and sexual orientation. They are becoming those things that are not white and the Republicans are courting the whites. As a white male, it is becoming more difficult to persuade others to the views of the Democrats when they feel they are being attacked or made to think they are being attacked by the Left. Don’t add to the separation for political points. We need to be the educators and those with the most heard voices should be going onto the Right’s networks and spread the word of diversity and how it will help them.
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112315900 82189977 Jorge USA

Dear NYT:

This seems like more elite academic scapegoating of working class White folks, who feel threatened – quite rightly – by the destruction of their way of life.

No, not from immigration or an influx of people of color, but from many other factors that damage their communities: corporate offshoring to China, bad schools, opioid addition, violence, poverty and a lack of hope…

Why have immigrants and people of color moved into some counties – thus triggering declines in the percentage of non-White residents – and not others? Many new immigrants and people of color are also poor, and poor folks must live where they can afford to live.

The argument that a covert conspiratorial “Great Replacement” ideology somehow drove the Capitol riot – it was not an “insurrection” under federal law – is silly, and cannot be demonstrated by demographics alone, especially when the author ignores so many other factors.

There is no regression analysis that proves a conspiracy theory, even if you are trying to tag another group as the dangerous conspirators.
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112316456 56061454 NB CA The Republicans are all about race and gender. As long as whites are in control and women’s reproductive rights are suppressed so more white babies can be born, is all that matters. Of course, rich white men get to be the puppeteers. Climate change, economic development, retooling industry and infrastructure to enable the economy of the future, medical access for all are not relevant to these people because they are already rich and will continue to become richer. 1617732696 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112316346 57082083 Neftaly Long Island NY A bunch of people who live on the internet who are afraid of change? Color me shocked. 1617732333 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112316477 32575682 marriea Chicago, Ill Whites in truth have been able to maintain their ‘status’ by not observing or being able to appreciate the battle that others have to endure in our society because they constantly use their powers to keep others ‘in their place’. When the few who have learned to use the system to and for their advantage make it, whites get angry and wrongly accuse blacks and others of achieving something via illegal means or as they did in 1921 with the killing of people and burning down of a town like Greenwood in Oklahoma. Blacks aren’t trying to take anything from whites, we just want the same opportunities as whites as we pay taxes also. We too are American citizens thanks to your forebearers. Right now, because whites didn’t like the outcome of the 2020 election, lies were told and now state leaders are changing the rules so whites can have a voting advantage. Whereas the changes they fear will probably happen anyways in the future, the US can be better served by learning to know who you think your adversaries are and learn and build from what one has in common. It is our children and their future who whose life will be affected. Let them decide without any prompting from us. They might be able to correct what we haven’t. 1617732780 360 21 TRUE FALSE
112316714 41843766 Michael H. Ebner Lake Forest IL

Years ago I read a fine book entitled “Cholera Years” by Charles E. Rosenberg, a professor of the history of health/medicine.

As I recall the outbreak began circa 1830 and it caused great consternation. Primitive efforts to activate public health strategies prompted public resistance. Much of the opposition had to do with religion as well as fear of science.

Next, circa 1860, New York City sought to create a Board of Health. Again resistance, this time having to do with strong resistance to the municipal government to impose new strictures.

Finally, circa 1880, a German medical researcher – Dr. Koch – discovered that the cholera germs were carried by water. This led to a movement – in Europe as well as the US – to water purification. Hence filtration plants were constructed.

Outcome: the Cholera plague soon dissipated because of this finding after some fifty years.

As I observe the public resistance to Covid19 it reminds me of the pronounced libertarian streak that is an ever present factor embedded in our political culture.
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112316063 59873124 Chuckus Amongus Denver Indeed, history may not repeat, but it does rhyme. The late Tony Horwitz wrote a book “Confederates in The Attic”, which started out as a documentary of Civil War re-enactors. He documents that, and much more. Attitudes in the South still have a dusty covering of reactions to the rise of minority rights in the aftermath of the Civil War and the Reformation. As far as whites feeling “disenfranchised”, perhaps first generation immigrants are just more motivated to “franchise” themselves. Don’t spend too much energy looking at what others who don’t look just like you have, get your stuff together and get enfranchised yourself. 1617731464 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112315316 67917675 JP San Diego Isabel Wilkerson’s book “Caste” explains the gist of this article in great detail. 1617729192 9 0 FALSE FALSE
112315705 147597539 El Conejo Kansas City The Republican party continues to step of the backs of the “poor white worker” instead of offering solutions for their economic problems. Its time the Republican Party to stop calling free medical care or free college socialism. Allowing their own base to suffer, in order to obtain their vote is a bit perverse. 1617730424 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112315006 69805167 MJM Newfoundland Canada

“…..mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites”

When you are used to privilege, equality seems like oppression.

I can’t find who or where this little idiom came from but as time ticks by, it becomes more and more prophetic - disappointedly so. I didn’t used to think things had gone this far. Obviously, they have.
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112315601 826792 Tom Georgia Over the recent past, demographers have consistently told us that the USA is headed for majority-minority status. They have been mostly ignored, except when politically advantageous for one of the donkeys or elephants. Mr. Pape’s research is confirmatory, but hardly earthshaking, considering the shadow of racism that hangs over white nationalist movements. Even if “the former guy” had run for president 20 years ago, the pattern of immigration was well on its way to becoming majority-minority status. I.E., there are more Kenyans than Norwegians coming to America.
If the current trend of violent response by white people continues, Mr. Pape’s research should be a call to action for public officials of all persuasions to start/continue the project of adapting to a multi-racial democracy lest this great experiment devolve into a failing country.
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112315056 31468049 George NYC NYC Here’s a new fact to process. How do you justify to a white working class individual that was passed over for a promotion, that diversity should take precedence in the selection process? If you truly want equality then eliminate quotas and let’s all compete on a level playing field. Why have Asian, Indian, and first generation black Americans been so successful? The short answer is that to achieve something you have to work at it. There is no free lunch in life!!! 1617728464 6 4 FALSE FALSE
112315672 63978557 Janice Fancy free Bring back the Fairness Doctrine Stop the onslaught of unverified hate and lies. 1617730316 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112315859 95746223 Dr. Dan Miami The main driver of all in right wing behavior is the FEAR of loosing what you have even more than having lost something already. Like a job. Middle and upper middle whites have lots to lose and limited means to replace it. They fear the most so they sway right the most. 1617730953 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112315532 41019409 Dennis Quick Charleston, South Carolina No surprise here. That’s how we got Trump in the first place. 1617729851 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112315599 21142372 Old Ben Chester County PA

“Awlllright, we’ll give some land to the {racial slurs} and the Indians. But we don’t want the Irish!!!”

As Mel Brooks so deftly pointed out when Sheriff Bart refused to compromise with the Mayor in Blazing Saddles, the history of selective racism against immigrant groups is as old as our Republic (if we can keep it). Most often selective hatred targets the latest arrivals, but sometimes it is directed against old animosities against, for example, Catholics, Freemasons, Jews, or Muslims. Sometimes whole regions are targeted, such as Hispanics, Africans or East Asians. Or those of my ancestors who came from the green hills of Ireland.

Still, it is remarkable that folks simmering in their own hate juices can decide that the thing to do about immigrants is smash the Capitol and hang the Vice President. But then, hatred is an irrational state of mind, isn’t it?
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112314926 50097185 Marta NYC

This is exactly what the Times reported not long after Trump was elected. Trump voters were NOT animated by economic insecurity but rather a perceived loss in relative social status.

So its interesting that this researcher “expected to find that rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession.” (poor verb choice btw – they were not driven TO anything, their behavior is on them.) Did Pape – a professional researcher – not read this previous research? And why would the Times give this notion even the remotest credence in the lede? Does the reporter not read his own paper?

It seems to me that many people/media outlets are still oddly reluctant to say the truth forthrightly – Trumpism is about racism. Its not just the far right – it applies to large %s of white American. That shouldn’t be remotely surprising to anyone at this point.
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112315040 10664125 Max NYC

This is a very weak correlation argument. Click the Washington Post link. Some of the white population reductions are barely perceptible. This was a preordained conclusion in search of a cause.

Presumably, there was not enough “white replacement” talk in the rioters’ online chatter, hence this silly population study.
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112315188 66210509 Sherry Wacker Oakland Poor white people felt privileged because they knew they were better off than any black family. This is the strategy behind first class seating, those in first class feel privileged because there is second class seating in the back. This is what poor white people are afraid of, that there will be no one worse off to make them feel better about themselves. 1617728833 9 0 FALSE FALSE
112315170 17178177 Chris Wildman The 49th State

The sad thing to me is that Trump and the GOP want voters to believe that THEY are looking out for working-class Americans, and they will protect white America from the invading hoards of immigrants.

Trump, who seems to retain a leadership role in the GOP, has nothing in common with the middle class, has spent his life abusing them, and is simply an opportunist using what he sees as a failing on the part of the “elite” Democrats that have traditionally looked out for working-class Americans to claim the role of protector.

The saddest thing of all is that the very folks who need the government’s help the most have now been conditioned to distrust all efforts on the part of Democrats to help them, preferring to listen to Trump, his sycophants in Congress, alt-right loonies, white supremacists, and a pig farmer in the Philippines.
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112315553 78820762 M Ford USA When I was growing up, I decided that the people that discuss the world in terms of skin color are the racists. Racists talk about people in terms of skin color and see skin color as a factor in life. Identity politics was considered racism before the Democrats mainstreamed it. Once they mainstreamed racism and racial stereotypes, we saw more racism and racial stereotypes. 1617729928 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112315620 63574412 Benderman South of Philly People who have the financial means to travel to DC for far-right protests, like the one on Jan. 6 are obviously middle class. However, these protesters represent millions more Whites that are poorly educated as well as financially insecure. These poor minions probably comprise the bulk of the 74M that cast their ballots for Trump. The prescription for appealing to this population hasn’t changed in centuries - create a visceral fear of non-whites, instill a sense of impending financial doom to be blamed on immigrants, and most important, provoke conflict between the poor white populace and the poorer black & non-white people. Oh, and for good measure, push a dose of anti-emasculation hatred of gay & “Other” lifestyles. 1617730139 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112315085 71106007 Candlewick Ubiquitous Drive

There is nothing new to see here. The 1917 race riots in Illinois saw Black men massacred for having the “audacity” to come North for jobs and a more humane life.

When the ideology of privilege and entitlement belonging to one group- is the premise of one’s core belief system; fear and irrationality take over. Then you can parade around in costumes and carry Bear repellent without excuse or shame.
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112316014 62479485 sleepyhead Detroit

This is not news to black people. We have always seen in our personal lives how white people feel a constant need to feel “some kind of way” about us. I’ve had an atypical life (prep school, private college, etc.) for my race and gender and have had to ignore constant stupid questions (I talk different(ly), do I live in the ghetto, what is a ghetto, really?). It was insulting that white people had these baked-in preconceptions of who I was - I had to know everything about them and they only had to assume about me and it was all true.

I was surprised when Obama got elected and was not surprised when the previous one was. I’ve found people to be much more racist than they admit - you just have to listen to hear how fearful they are and how unfounded their concepts.

I date it back to the Haitian Revolution in 1791. After that, the tenor of slavery took a very dark and violent turn. We’ve never shaken that and it’s the unconscious background behind black criminalization. I see it every time a school child (a 5-year old!) is handcuffed for being a child.

I’m sorry it was The Washington Post that published his research. That guarantees less publicity for the study and this needs to be chewed over constantly.

Black people are only 13% of the national population, but in places where it’s relatively high, expect to see crazy discrimination, viz. Georgia.

There is no creature as menacing as a frightened white person.
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112314961 41094238 Grace NC Is it really so hard to accept that racism is the driving force behind these folks? How many articles will there be where the person, after reviewing the data, discovers to their surprise that it wasn’t economic anxiety after all? There were clues here - Auschwitz t-shirts, confederate flags, mid-week trip to DC from far away. 1617728216 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112315468 62626569 Bill Seattle There is an upside to this. Now that white people pose the most danger to our country, the push to end capital punishment is remarkably gaining traction: go figure! 1617729662 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112315007 39851436 M E R NYC/MA As a white person I have had every advantage. I do not understand this resistance to the point of violence and even murder, in sharing with others in this great country. There is enough for all of us. People need to stop hoarding, stop being so greedy. It’s disgusting. 1617728312 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112315871 48360907 Richard Janssen Schleswig-Holstein How terribly sad that Americans can’t bring themselves to think of each other as Americans rather than some hyphenated subcategory of humanity — and then to move on and learn to see themselves first and foremost as members of the human race. 1617730974 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112314949 20877330 Justin Omaha It seems like a uniquely White American hang-up (and not just Republicans): that we cannot be truly happy unless there is some group of people being treated unfairly. 1617728193 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112315207 52147740 george eliot annapolis, md

I didn’t need this to tell me what I already knew. These people pass on their ignorance and bigotry from one generation to the next.

All they’ve got are their guns, bibles, and victim hood.
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112315826 85196125 cathyO Wa state i have some of my own theories on this subject. In this area, protesters are likely to be white, unhappy about something (anything) , enough to to blame someone (anyone) for their position in life. Nevermind, it is their responsibility to be employed, making a living and finding and some kind of an education in order to be better employed, rather then blaming government, or all other races for their lot in life. When you do not have enough self confidence, you are going to rail at every one who does, seeing it is their fault for your condition. This generation has never learned how to hitch up their pants and get to work to make their lives and their country better, not by violence, guns and bitterness at everyone around. I am in my late 80’s and have been through a lot of what life can throw at you. Learned a little, learned a lot………just my thoughts…………. 1617730867 0 1 FALSE FALSE
112315733 63540596 misterdangerpants arlington, mass And this is surprising how? 1617730523 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112315632 44845450 Jack Groves Los Angeles Ignorance. Lack of empathy for “others”. Little curiosity. = fear and rage. 1617730186 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112315358 85993699 Pank Camden, NJ There is not enough support for our existing culture, which is under threat from immigrants who don’t assimilate and invading aliens who have no interest in our culture. It is time to make English the official national language and to require new citizens to speak it competently. 1617729318 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112315493 67582467 Sameric North Carolina The real solution is not to demonize “losers.” It’s to guarantee them healthcare, education, and true economic security. Articles like these serve to divide us and make it more difficult to prevent future “insurrections.” Way to go NYT! 1617729728 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112314894 67154721 New England native Eastern Maine It is pleasing to see this in the Times. Too many so-called political scientists and journalists know nothing about history and ethnic conflicts in other countries. Mr. Pape knows something about the Know Nothings who controlled the Massachusetts legislature and tarred and feathered a Catholic priest here in Hancock county Maine. He knows something about the rise of the KKK during the 1920s in places like Maine with almost no Black residents. As he says, it is about fear of displacement. Being forced to attend lectures about “white privilege” is probably not helpful. 1617728037 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112314832 65722173 M ANDERSON Philadelphia PA

We live in a world where, since time began, the White race is the nonpareil of all races; non-White races strive to be what the White race is. Now, the ‘advantages’ (I refuse to say privileges) are slowly fading—and some Whites (i.e. the rioters of January 6th) are realizing it—and have chosen not to accept it, hence using violence.

Deal with it and get over it; people of color (primarily African Americans) have dealt with it for centuries. There’s no turning back.
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112315100 76287895 Blackcat66 NJ God these people make me embarrassed to be white. I just don’t understand this fear. 1617728613 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112314909 49527177 Sean Ft Lee. N.J. Too many treasonous trump supporting malcontents, antecedents one time designated not white enough, yesterday set upon today taking part;mirroring Nativist ethnophobia regarding true Yankee American. 1617728079 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112315046 4530175 Richard Long Island Why am I not surprised? 1617728425 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112315019 69677914 John Stowe, PA White supremacists know they are people who fundamentally have nothing to offer the world. They cling to the only thing they can pretend makes them “superior.” 1617728358 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112315541 1748158 Di California One quibble–white MEN who feel they’re losing out. Most of these rabble rousers are men. 1617729884 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112315785 2696231 GB South Orange, NJ

The privileged think that equality feels like oppression because they fear that those who are “replacing” them cannot share their values. I use the word “cannot” very specifically. The belief that people of non-European (one hundred years ago, it was non-northern Europeans) descent could not share and promote their values is racial. One has to recall that the Nordics (German Nazis) thought of southern and eastern Europeans such as Iberians, Italians, and Slavs as being of inferior stock.

At the bottom of the totem pole are African Americans who many whites believe would run things differently, despite Constitutional imperatives, were they in positions of power and influence. White supremacy requires that adherents think that the ideas of democracy and capitalism grew out of genetics rather than out of a contingently unique set of historical events. People of African descent COULDN’T POSSIBLY understand and perpetuate these great ideals because it is not in our genes. Therefore, we are not deserving of the largess of society; so much so that they will vote to deny themselves this largess if they would have to share it with the undeserving. This is the basis of white supremacy.

The U.S. would be a social democratic nation today - with health care for all and with higher education for all - if black people were not here.
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112314983 100184235 Noneya Cali So many hit dogs yelping in these comments. 1617728255 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112316036 63478494 Jim smith California Further confirming this white racist cult is in transition, and in crisis as it sees itself with the shoe on the other foot. I would imagine the new non-white majority will be a heck of a lot more accepting to these creeps than what they’ve received over the years. 1617731402 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112314797 65236645 Andy NYC So the rioters were racists and white supremacists. I’m shocked, shocked I tell you! Oh wait, that’s Trump’s base, and always has been. I could have told you this before the riot even happened. 1617727815 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112315088 71300954 Scott R Charlotte All of these counties lose their most intelligent to cities. The result is a dumbed down population that gets dumber with every generation. 1617728589 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112315863 47333365 Les Bethesda This ugly old nativism is based on denying our history. We have successfully integrated Germans, Irish, Italians, Greeks, Hungarians, I could go on. And what is the result? A richer society in every way for both the descendants of those nativists and the descendants of those ‘undesirable’ immigrants. Where are the nativist voices who were screaming about how Irish papists would destroy America? It was stupid then for the Irish and it is stupid now for the Latinx. When we welcome and integrate, things get better for everyone. When we allow the racists and xenophobes to fear-monger, things get worse for everyone - majority and minority. It is the nativists who want to destroy the American dream and they must be exposed for the ugliness of their views and the complete lack of validity of the nonsense they espouse. 1617730964 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112315454 3117761 Frequent Flier USA This is the GQP game plan - make everything a zero sum game. They have a good job so you won’t. Scaring people witless is all they’ve got. 1617729636 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112315327 23019448 Charlotte Northampton MA

He did these people get so paranoid?

Oh yeah: Fox, Q, Facebook, OAN….
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112314919 135450 Alan MacDonald Wells, Maine

Mark Morgan on the faux-news ‘network’ NEWSMAX seemed impressive as former CBP Acting Director under Trump has found a new ‘padded nest’ at The Heritage Foundation and FAIR:

In 2021, after Trump lost re-election, the Heritage Foundation hired Chad Wolf, Ken Cuccinelli and Mark Morgan, all three of whom played a prominent role in the immigration policies of the Trump administration. It also hired former Vice President Mike Pence. Shortly thereafter, Pence published an op-ed on a Heritage Foundation website which made false claims of fraud in the 2020 election, as well as numerous false claims about For the People Act, a Democratic bill to expand voting rights.

In addition to being a “visiting fellow” at The Heritage Foundation, Mark Morgan is concurrently serving as a “visiting fellow” at FAIR the Federation for American Immigration Reform which is headquartered in Washington, D.C. and was founded in 1979 by Michigan surgeon, eugenics supporter John Hamilton Tanton was an American ophthalmologist, white nationalist.

Perhaps The Heritage Foundation was not aware of the bona fides of their “visiting scholar” also being a “visiting scholar” at F.A.I.R. — which is not really very fair, unless one is a fair skinned Nazi Racist:

Both FAIR and Social Contract Press are designated as hate groups by the Southern Poverty Law Center. In 2001, the SPLC included these groups, and Tanton, in a list of inter-connected network of anti-immigration groups. [Wiki]
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112315712 26976765 Hjs At sea Cue the trumpets! Unfurl the flags! The New York Times has caught on to what Hillary Clinton voters knew in 2016. ‘Economic insecurity’ was a catchphrase white voters used to excuse racism and misogyny in other white voters—and to enjoy their own share of it in private. Welcome aboard, NYT! 1617730437 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112315836 105258489 James Rippy Tennessee You mean to tell me that there are racist and racism in counties were the demographics are beginning to shift? Ha….we don’t need a political science department to inform us of that. Anyone with a thimble full of brains already knows that these rednecks who stormed the U.S. Capitol are racist as all get out. So give me a break!? 1617730909 0 0 FALSE FALSE
112316031 71786421 cocobeauvier Pasadena ,Ca. 1.They’re still enraged about a black man, Barack Obama being the president. 2.“You can’t tell me what to do. You’re not the boss of me!” 3. Think back to be your third-grade playground…That’s America today. 1617731389 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112315313 54628660 Okiegopher OK If you fear “losing out” to people who have been held down, held back, held in jail, held in choke holds literally and figuratively for the past 200 years (plus!), and you can’t muster the ability to keep your place and your pride without stomping on their necks…. YOU are a loser! 1617729183 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112315341 65418550 Terence Yhip Mississiauga Ontario

This fear of the US becoming less white and more brown is real and growing and the elites from both the GOP and DNC are worried “no hell”. They see the demographics, they see red-states like Georgia going Blue and they look to Texas and cringe n fear.

It is an existential issue for the elites.

Liberal democracy in the US is at risk as the elites try to preserve their turn or push back the tide.

There are signs of this in new voting regulations.
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112315762 42009460 Hans Scholl Boulder, Colorado

Tribal competition and tension is nothing new. Ethnic groups act to protect themselves. Some in the Democratic Party spend a great deal of effort attacking and alienating Caucasians and claiming everything we do is ‘racist’ (there is only one ‘race’, FYI), and they are doing a good job helping Republicans get elected. No ethnic group is without blood on its hands in its history, so why not concentrate on improving societal conditions for all (as the Biden Administration is doing) instead of alienating potential allies via renaming schools and telling us we are racist scum?

Give it some thought.
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112316305 86754860 R CA Robert Pape’s preliminary findings regarding the fears of white people are consistent with current efforts by Republican led state legislatures to make it harder for U.S. citizens to vote, especially in Democratic leaning urban areas of red states were many non-white voters reside. All people are created equal. In recognition of this fact, Congress needs to enact voting rights legislation to ensure all U.S. citizens have equal access to ballots and ballot boxes, without anyone required to wait in a long line to vote. 1617732194 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112316157 63673953 Mask Of Comedy/Tragedy Northeast

And so, as many of us thought as Trump rose the nomination process to power, it really is about race. And, also, as many of us thought, the real issues have to do with socio-economics.

If this group is predominantly middle class, I am curious to see how their response will be to Biden’s policies. I yet again fear the policies will be interpreted as ‘handouts for those people’ instead of seen as a genuine attempt to help the middle and working class.

Conservatives have been incredibly successful using race to deflect against class struggle. To our great loss as a nation.
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112315970 60758279 Sean Portland, OR It appears to be the same with the Yellow Vests in France. These are not the poor and down and out, who are variously splintered in their political sympathies–some favoring redistributionist and labor movements, some generally anti-establishment, some outright anti-social, and most spending their days just getting by with no time for political activity. Its those who have something (recall how many small business owners were among the Capitol attackers) who fear a loss of privilege, place in society, and maybe even income based on larger societal factors. 1617731229 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112315144 84659488 dap San Marino, CA I don’t understand the statement: “They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.” I would have expected, at best, middle-class, less educated, on its way down to the lower classes. Unless we are talking about relentless urbanization, where very small towns, including their upper middle classes are disappearing. These must be the towns where agribusiness has displaced small scale farming and where small business has atrophied. 1617728707 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112315125 75190681 MW New Orleans, LA These findings go along with a Trump-supporting friend who tells me that Trump represents the “voice of the forgotten people.” The feeling is so strong, my friend tells me, that this is why they accepted behavior from Trump they would never accept from any other president, regardless of party. 1617728677 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112315584 139344572 Gene B Kansas This country has been a study of continuing evolution since its founding. We are all ongoing fuel for the quest of a more perfect union, guided by laws that have honored ever more inclusion. For those stuck in the past, attendance at second grade civics classes while incarcerated would do them no harm. 1617730015 12 1 FALSE FALSE
112315323 46557709 Jamie Nichols Santa Barbara

I have a highly educated, well-traveled, lifelong Republican friend who has demonstrated acts of compassion and decency and insists he’s not a racist or any other type of bigot. Yet his vehement anti-immigrant arguments (at least relative to those from south of the border and of Islamic faith) and willful blindness and false denials of the mistreatment of racial, ethnic and religious minorities by the white majority nowadays and throughout our nation’s history reflect a very real fear on his part. They also evidence his express or implicit belief in the Great Replacement theory that is the subject of this article.

Great Replacement believers would be anathema to a co-founder of the Republican Party, Abe Lincoln. For he detested their ideological forbears, the Know Nothing Party. Of course the modern GOP has repudiated so much of what Lincoln stood and fought for that I can barely suppress a laugh whenever I hear someone claim that Republicans represent the “party of Lincoln.” The only part of Abe Lincoln today’s GOP represents is his earlier racist campaign rhetoric that was de rigueur for any candidate hoping to be elected to public office in Illinois in the 1840s and ’50s–certainly NOT his irrefutable reputation for honesty and decency.

The fears of white America are rational only if the true facts are ignored and the false ones embraced. Lincoln knew that and so should white Americans today. But they won’t, because fear both sells and bestows political power.
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112315287 67758954 AG USA I am betting a lot of their anxiety stems from being overextended with debt to pay for their middle and upper middle class life style. That too goes back to colonial times (see Thomas Jefferson). Low interest rates, no collateral loans, tax avoidance and bankruptcy manipulation have allowed some to live lifestyles beyond their means for generations. Their biggest fear is the same as Trumps, the end of the scam. 1617729128 23 0 FALSE FALSE
112315409 68452990 bob ny Perhaps widespread economic insecurity is related to our dog eat dog economic system and the absence of a decent safety net. 1617729493 16 0 FALSE FALSE
112315702 97557 Peter Kaufman Brooklyn

No Democrat has won a majority of the white vote since the passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964.

“Economic anxiety” has always been code for the fear that minorities will have, what whites take for granted today - i.e., an advantage.

When you are used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
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112315746 57058151 Michelle EastBay,CA I know some of these types of people from elementary school. We’ve kept in touch on social media. I don’t know any that actually went to DC, though. My former classmates who align with the insurrectionists are economically diverse. Some went to college and/or got into a lucrative trade, some did not. They are people who feel they are struggling and want more: not because they are destitute, but because they feel that minorities and immigrants ( documented and undocumented) get more help from the government, and they believe that is the reason for their perceived inadequacies and struggles. They are not interested in the actual facts. They simply need someone else to blame and are happy to swallow the divisive propaganda spewed by right wing media outlets 24/7/365. 1617730592 35 1 FALSE FALSE
112314995 255978 bl rochester

It has been evident by looking/listening at trump rallies that MAGA hats encoded for its warriors a deep sense of existential threat for the imminent loss of their privilege and social status. Making the country “great again” always had, and always will have, a racialist feature at its core.

The article in question helps reinforce this intuition with a significant data analysis. That is helpful.

What we manage to do about this is a different matter altogether since these anxieties repeatedly emerge to remind us on a regular basis of the very ugly and evil filled history that we refuse to teach both ourselves and, especially, our youth in general.

A major consequence of this systemic ignorance, a function both of local control of schools + communal housing codes, is that tens of millions of whites are now utterly terrified of living in a multiracial society where their power, status, and influence are no longer unquestioned or unchallengeable. Such a notion is completely unacceptable and to be opposed by all means necessary. FX “news” et al bang this drum 24/7.

They’ll have nothing to do with such political and social trends, and are exploiting all the non democratic features of our dysfunctional political system to delay, obstruct, and stymie any evolution towards a freer, more equitable society where every child has a genuine opportunity to develop and learn, and each individual can fully engage with civic society.

But what can be done about it?
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112315428 79277453 Greg Sacramento Whatever the motivation, the violence from this group is most likely not going away for a number of years, if not longer, and will most likely flourish with a GOP return to power at a Federal level. An unhappy thought, but one to keep in mind in the years to come. 1617729563 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112315641 60106334 Randy Tampa How many of the arrested had existing/prior law enforcement/military experience? Many I assume 1617730213 3 1 FALSE FALSE
112315494 721090 PippaN Cape Of course. Its culture not economics, as we’ve been demonstrating for years now. 1617729730 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112315374 76975529 Gail NYC What is most amazing about this article is that Robert Pape, a so-called expert, was surprised to find that the primary motivation for those arrested at the Capitol on Jan. 6 likely was fear of minorities and immigrants rather than lingering effects of the Great Recession. Of course that was the primary motivation (although to some extent the two motivations overlap because fear of immigrants and mandated preferences for minorities is partly economic rather than racist). Similarly, the focus on the arrested protestors being mainly middle-class and upper-middle-class is misleading because the article notes that most of those arrested came from places distant to Washington D.C. In effect, it usually requires money to take time off to travel and to pay for travel and overnight stays so it should not be surprising that financially better off people comprised the bulk of the arrested protesters. That, however, does not mean their sentiments are not shared by working class whites who feel equally threatened by immigrants and minority preferences. Democrats must learn to focus their language on helping those with economic and social needs without knee jerk references to minorities. Such minorities still would be the primary beneficiaries of those efforts, but the fearful whites referenced in the article likely would take far less offense from such generalized approaches as they should equally benefit needy whites. 1617729375 7 0 FALSE FALSE
112315389 1916679 Rob Strobel Indiana “His research led to a remarkable discovery: Most of the bombers were secular, not religious, and had killed themselves not out of zealotry, but rather in response to military occupations.” Vague. Does anyone know what the author means by ‘military occupations’? 1617729414 1 1 FALSE FALSE
112314993 61373533 Sailorgirl Florida

I am sorry. I do not empathize with white men who refuse to work hard to get ahead. Hard work has no color, gender or economic bounds. Nothing in this life has never come easy. You work, you save, you take advantage of opportunity. Rinse and repeat. Sometimes you have good luck. Sometimes bad luck. But this is America. Has been for 300 years.

Most of us are color blind. Your work ethic. Your honesty, your integrity, fair play that is all that counts in my book. Right now I am doing major house renovations. My contractor is a women. Her subcontractors are Cuban and Guatemalan. They work hard, show up on time keep the job site clean. These traits are what has made America great.
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112315337 21452962 Donald New York There has been so many studies already explaiing that Trump supporters don’t suffer from economic anxiety. Its cultural anxiety or the feeling that their privileged position is in danger from the “others”. These must be like the one hundredth of such essays explaining this. Its getting boring. 1617729252 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112315101 50084657 GS Dallas, TX

Perceived loss of status is a real and considerable agent in motivating human behavior. (As it is in the animal kingdom.). Confederate Army foot-soldiers, for example, were not slave owners; they were fighting to keep Blacks inferior to them.

People can be predictably motivated to violence, by manipulating this potent psychological force, fear of an attack on one’s status.

The First Amendment does not forbid a law prohibiting one to yell “Fire” in a crowded theater. Because the predictable results are seriously harmful and the speech isn’t socially useful.

Do First Amendment boundaries need re-examination in the context of loss of status demagoguery? Obviously, a much more difficult assignment than forbidding “Fire” without undermining freedom of speech. But, is unbridled pernicious speech in this area an unalterable given?
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112315254 66343705 Alf Alpha Midwest I’m a failed boomer, tried working hard and paying my taxes but forgot the rich parents part. Naturally I blame my shortfall on externals most bitter dark resentments it doesn’t occur to me to take up arms to overthrow the government. But, hey, I guess that’s just my slacker attitude. 1617729028 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112313755 73695872 Rudran California The study findings are not a surprise. Throughout history, the entrenched fight change as Machiavelli observes in his book. The question really is how do we avoid or minimize the violence as this transition proceeds over the next two decades. Or is big upheaval not preventable? One important issue is the ability of all American citizens to vote freely and without burdensome restrictions.
A second big challenge is equity as the government doles out benefits that form a growing part of our ‘compensation’ - health care, child care, schooling and student debt cancellation, elder care, minimum wages ($1000 a month?). Working folk will wonder why their taxes are supporting others kids or schooling or even housing and food!! Are Democrat Socialists like AOC buying votes with our tax $$$? Why are we allowing our southern border to be so porous? How can we afford to subsidize poor kids at $5000 a year if several hundred thousand kids seek to come in through Mexico each year? These are important issues where the country is split down the middle - in part because the demographics are changing.
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112314991 73572343 Kcirrot Chicago, Illinois How many more studies need to be done to show that what motivates Trump’s biggest supporters is racism? The economic anxiety argument has always been a way to excuse the ugly truth at the core of Trumpism and the modern conservative movement. 1617728285 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112315321 79316228 just ben Rosarito, Baja California, México

Yes, we are only in the beginning stages, but here are some tentative inferences…

  1. It is really all about race. It is about little else, except misogyny. It is not about jobs (note that these are upper- and middle-income people), it is not about “beliefs” or “policies” or “conservative ideology.” It is motivated strictly by hatred.

  2. No, it can’t be solved solely by law enforcement. We need to go upstream. We need to stop (if you like, censor) hate speech, above all electronic hate speech, to forestall riling up goons like this. We need to be more like Germany, which tries to stamp out this sort of thing, and stop citing the First Amendment to abet evil.

  3. Prosecuting Donald Trump for every crime he can possibly be charged with, federal, state, and local, is a moral imperative. He might be acquitted of some. Still, America must make an example of him.

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This was already obvious to everyone on all sides. The Trump movement is a reactionary white nationalist response to immigration, diversity, and greater engagement with the world. Stop trying to work with them; defeat them. I’d start with HR1, the PRO Act, and criminal prosecution of Donald Trump for his numerous felonies.

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The article says, “Most of the people who took part in the assault came from places, his polling and demographic data showed, that were awash in fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people in American politics and culture.”

Yes, the uneducated whites who actually think they have a right to “lord” it over people of color and less economic worth.

They are even willing to destroy OUR United States of America with their misplaced self-love and supposed “relgious” ideas.

I’ve always been so grateful of living in OUR United States of America because we have such a wonderful opportunity to learn about people who aren’t like we whites. These democracy-destroyers, mostly white men, make me ashamed.
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112314958 21956008 lc Bay Area

And as long as we keep focusing on race, “non-Hispanic whites” will feel this way. The town I grew up in is half the size it was in 1970. The people used to be Italian and middle class (factory job, house, car). Now they are “middle class” in various retail and service jobs for less than 40 hours/wk.

I don’t think people who used to be ethnic and are now white ponder their status in this way. Their real wages have plummeted and our national obsession with race absent class and and economic analysis fuels this fire.

NYT too.
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112313572 80370332 Frank Colorado The uneducated insecure white person in this country can be very dangerous. The thought of other kinds of people having what they already have is intolerable. Partly because they have a sense that the “goodies” (like voting rights, access to health care) are rightly theirs alone. Or, in the case of jobs, limited in number. Partly because they fear that competent people of color will expose the undeserving status of some white people For examples of this last item, you have only to look at Congress. 1617724593 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112315628 51477244 Scott Maui

So let’s walk through this…. All my (hypothetical) life as a white male I have benefited by society’s racism because it gave me an edge in finding the best jobs with the most pay. Civil rights and other reforms came along and now I am forced to compete and I no longer have those benefits. So while I am not a racist, I certainly benefited from a racist society, and now I am worse off than I was 30, 40 years ago. And I am angry. Trump comes along and taps into that anger.

My point here is that while overt, bald-faced racism exists in America, I am not so sure that what America is going through now is purely a battle with racism. I think we are still reconciling our shift away from institutionalized racism and coming to terms with the changes that shift has caused.

If we are to heal America I believe we have to listen to what is going on and not just write it off as a bunch of racists. Yes they behave in a racist fashion but the root cause is economics. Solve the latter and much of the former will be resolved also. But it won’t be resolved by just arresting the vocal leaders; it will remain a simmering problem within affected communities.
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112315677 88130976 Penelope WA I would like to think these displaced and displeased white males are victims but they are the same ones who benefited from the arbitrary barriers that have been in place to keep POC and women marginalized. They are also the ones who tout self-sufficiency and trickle down economics as the American way. Since they continue to vote for the social and moral agenda that blames everyone who don’t look like them, it’s hard for me to have much sympathy for their willful ignorance. 1617730333 4 1 FALSE FALSE
112315429 32588089 DM Boston, MA

I had a friend tell me “it is hard to be a white person these days”. And he wonders why with this attitude our mutual Black friends have written him off.

It may be more challenging to be white, but still about 1/10 the challenge of being a minority.
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112315069 67712639 Matt b Hayward Frankly, I’m ok with “a taco truck on every corner”, as long as they have some vegetarian options. 1617728511 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112315466 19815576 Machiavelli Firenze

The media is now featuring mostly Black entertainers, sports champions, singers, writers, commentators, etc. We see endless stories of companies, universities, schools, government needing more people of color ( which is true!) That will certainly drive up this feeling of whites “under siege” (which not true).

74 million + voted for Trump. They did not attack Congress but we need to know how THEY feel about the growth of minorities. We may be in a “” situation where this issue will plague us for many, many years.

Fasten your seat belts.
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112315694 63052125 Paul C Hsieh Walnut Creek, CA.

Immigrants are like the guests living in the homes of the White. The welcome attitude faded since the guests showed no signs of “going back where they came from”.

In the meantime, immigrants fails to treat the hosting white as the “hosts” as they have elevated themselves to be now an occupants and demand all the rights.

While we blame the violence on the “hosting white”, we also need to remind the “new comers” to show some respect toward the established white.

Respect is the thing we all need.
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112313847 77235126 Wayne Cunningham San Francisco The mindless enthusiasm for Trump seemed mysterious to me for quite a while, until I realized that Trump was giving cover to his followers for racism. He could stand up and say he’s the least racist person in the world, while taking actions and saying other things that were clearly racist. His followers could get in line behind him as he expressed their racist feelings without coming out and saying it blatantly. Although many of those followers also said the quiet part out loud. Mr. Pape’s study certainly confirms that conclusion. 1617725343 1 0 FALSE FALSE
112315491 19188844 Annie Stewart’s MD I’m not surprised it’s middle and upperclass white men committing acts of violence. Too many get away with flouting the law and skirting ethics. These guys probably know they can’t compete in a truly merit based economy as well. So, they are willing to hurt others to maintain their privilege. 1617729725 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112315656 73539559 Lucy Cooke California

“Mr. Pape, whose career had mostly been focused on international terrorism, used that approach after the Sept. 11 attacks when he created a database of suicide bombers from around the world. His research led to a remarkable discovery: Most of the bombers were secular, not religious, and had killed themselves not out of zealotry, but rather in response to military occupations.”

And the US response to terrorism has been more military occupations… and the NYT and the entire Establishment kept telling us “suckers” that those Muslim extremists hated us for our freedoms. No wonder so many, have so little trust in the government, the Establishment and its media.

The obliviousness of the Democratic and Republican Establishment and their usual self interested stupidity has created the US immigration problem.

Foreign born population in the US was 9.6 million in 1970, and 41.3 million in 2013, <a href=“https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2015/09/28/chapter-5-u-s-foreign-born-population-trends” target="_blank">https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2015/09/28/chapter-5-u-s-foreign-born-population-trends</a>/ That was a HUGE change in US demographics. Immigrants/refugees did take American jobs and lower wages, despite Democratic Party mythology to the contrary. I know Trump voters who intensely dislike the flood of illegal immigrants, but like and respect individual immigrants.

Cheap labor made a lot of Democrats and Republicans wealthy, so illegal immigration was tolerated, while the middle class got poorer.

Biden’s bold, Sanders inspired policies may calm the anger and lessen the despair.
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112315324 90786102 JZ Boston

I think it’s passed out of common knowledge these days, but Anbar/Sunni Awakening was a fairly important milestone in the GWOT and a great example of research -> successful policy deployed into a very complex demographic space and unstable environment. The DoD still waxes on about it and studies it, but I’d say for good reason.

It was short lived due to failure in execution of the follow-on steps needed after it. But, within the scope of the policy’s impacts and factoring what logical next-steps could have been aside from what was chosen, it was very successful and odds are it would have been a cornerstone of future OIF success (of course: hindsight 20/20).

It was a feat of distilling the impact and needs of a significantly complex demographic in a very violent environment into a workable policy with tactical effects. It took defining a very complex system, figuring out the levers, figuring out how to pull the right ones, and defining how to start pulling them and when. If Mr. Pape was behind it, I’m certainly inclined to listen to his views on Jan 6.
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112314745 75869937 Voxhumana 21234 When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. 1617727709 282 4 FALSE FALSE
112314393 576058 MWR NY One can almost feel the satisfaction of progressives that white males, unless ivy educated, have had their day and now it’s payback time. This excellent analysis shows that the problem has been seen before and isn’t going away any time soon. Fear of downward mobility is a powerful motivator. The Republicans are stoking the anger created by that fear. The Democrats should not succumb to the progressives’ efforts to marginalize or worse, render irrelevant, white males who not only fear a “decline in their social status,” but are actually experiencing it. Many of these men were once reliable Democrat voters - laborers, union members, sons of the same - who aren’t “privileged” but instead worked hard and played by the rules that were once the ticket to middle-class comfort. With globalization, the loss of high-paying US manufacturing jobs and the rise of academic meritocracy, that compact has been broken. We can’t rely on the Republicans to address it productively - they’ll continue to exploit it - so it’s up to the Democrats to figure something out. Nobody else will do it, and the consequences will be grave. 1617726827 116 9 FALSE FALSE
112314796 11424081 RestonD Reston VA

Some of this is going to be a perception of attacks or vilification of rural, working-class whites by a (perceived or real) set of elites who focus on BIPOC who are part of the Democratic coalition.

Any racist bias or attachment to privilege is also mixed with a more legitimate concern about an attack by a new urban-elite/minority coalition.
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112314803 76849973 John Jersey The very rich are the problem. And they are happy to have us divided by whatever identity we choose. Just as long as we fight each other, and never come for them. 1617727825 220 4 FALSE FALSE
112314846 82813795 Trevor Austin The race to the bottom with identity politics and other divisive themes that both parties play with will exacerbate these feelings. 1617727919 23 1 FALSE FALSE
112314820 85668380 JCAZ Arizona Again, another reason why we need to invest more money into education. 1617727863 35 0 FALSE FALSE
112314847 62333452 Mike Brooklyn

What happened at the Capitol was terrible and inexcusable.

These people are in a large part reacting to a fear of being displaced - like many Americans, they’ve probably also seen that their lives have not improved over the past 20 or so years. Right wing politicians, who are enacting many of the policies that hold them down, play off of these fears and blame “the others.”

That being said, the media has a role to play in this as well. The media incessantly harps on racial divides (not class divides which are probably more important) for clicks. There is also a glaring trend in media coverage, where if white people are referred to as a group, it’s almost without fail in a negative light. Trying doing that with any single other ethnic group and see what happens. Even in the paper of record, white people don’t even merit a capital W. I’m a lifelong NY Democrat, not a Fox News viewer, and it’s starting to get under even my skin.
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112314924 60184863 Thomas Buffalo Thanks for mentioning in the article that the KKK revival of the 1920s was in reaction to the arrival of Italian Americans. (You should also have noted the religious element, that the KKK was fundamentally anti Roman Catholic, essentially a Protestant extremist group, a point typically lost today or ignored/white washed). In fact, the KKK of the 1920s was far larger than it had been during Reconstruction. Also not well known, the largest mass lynching in American history was against Italian immigrants in Louisiana in 1896 13 were lynched by a mob. 1617728131 19 0 FALSE FALSE
112314939 1848047 David Buffalo As this article points out, there’s a straight line between racist, xenophobic behaviors and the anti-democratic actions by the Capitol insurrectionists. The GOP vote suppression efforts only add fuel to the fire. We’re in for a long, bumpy ride. Hopefully we’re up to the challenge as a nation. 1617728169 21 2 FALSE FALSE
112314785 59871106 Samcracker ND I have always said, it is not Trump who is a problem. I have no problem with Trump being Trump. The problem is your neighbor who has been stewing in his own ripe juices and waiting for a moment to burst out. Trump merely catalyzed this eruption of nastiness. The stuff had been brewing across America all along. The real Trump showed us the dark power of what’s lurking beneath. A smarter trump that can channel this power can destroy is the worst fear because it can cause destruction of this country - and half the world with it - from within. 1617727783 30 1 FALSE FALSE
112314788 58542952 Shyamela New York Just read Caste by Isabel Wilkerson. Yep, she figured this out. 1617727798 21 0 FALSE FALSE
112314934 28171778 JS Austin

So the rioters believe that the rights of minorities and immigrants are crowding out their rights, the rights of white people in American politics and culture.

We all have the same constitutional rights and the rioters’ failure to understand that is our original sin - it has appeared in different forms at different times throughout our history, but it has always been with us and remains a deplorable (yes, deplorable) fact of American life.
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112314756 70264110 AB Brooklyn

I’m sorry whiteness is no longer makes up for lack of education, skills, and work ethic.

But that’s how the world works nowadays.
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112314795 20300807 jrd ny

So our own leaders lied (again), when they insisted that the 9/11 hijackers hated our freedoms. It was actually the reverse: they hated us for denying them the freedoms we enjoy.

The difficulty now is, what educational or doctrinal program which is going to convince the Trump faithful that it doesn’t have a birthright to cultural dominance? And it likely doesn’t help that a fanatic vocal minority on the other side attributes all human evils to “cisgender” white men, with the help of a handful of “Karens”.

Sound hopeful?
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112314799 139165824 Caesius LINY A large part of the fear of status loss…is these white people expect that black and brown people will treat them as poorly as they (whites) have been and wish to always treat black brown people. The fear of reciprocity is huge among these whites. 1617727821 30 0 FALSE FALSE
112314848 64558030 Alfred Yul Dubai The main culprit here are right-wing media that have no compunction whatsoever about feeding a bunch of lies to their listeners day in and day out. 1617727927 27 0 FALSE FALSE
112314864 72788204 Susie Canada Trump tried to roll back the clock to the America of 20-30 years ago, preserving white male privilege, along that of oil, coal and mining barons. Every policy, pronouncement and dog whistle were for this. 1617727971 18 0 FALSE FALSE
112314842 60715264 citizen vox san francisco

Interesting that the January 6 rally on the Capitol was unique in its violence and that it followed Trump’s call to arms: it will be wild, show strength. There were comments from the rioters that Trump sent us.

But I’d like more information on those arrested January 6 before accepting the main argument of Pape’s work, that it is demographics/the Great Replacement that drove the insurrection.

Could there be other factors that can be addressed? What is the economic status of those arrested? It’s not enough to say those arrested came from areas without high unemployment. Were those arrested economically secure?

And what is meant by “middle class and upper middle class” as used in this piece? The usual key indicators of socioeconomic class are education, income and race. Are we to think the Capitol Insurrectionists were moderately and highly educated? Trump supporters are usually described as white, poorly educated, so are those arrested poorly educated but still doing well economically?

Economic and educational inequality can and should be corrected. But if the Great Replacement is purely a matter of demographics, then just think of all the indigenous peoples the Europeans displaced in the past two hundred years and have a little empathy for them.
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112314545 78697659 Diane Steiner Pennsylvania Robert Pape, a former adviser to Barack Obama, has interjected race into the study. What about the education of the people he has studied, or is that not relevant? It seems the only card Democrats play, and I’m sure he’s one, is the race card, dividing the people of the United States more and more. Has he done a study on why Antifa held “peaceful” protests last summer by intimidating people, burning down businesses and police stations. Curious to know the demographics of those people. Let’s put race aside and look at what’s happening to people, socio-economically. There is actually more of a division among class distinction than race, and that’s where the government is going to run into problems. 1617727190 9 4 FALSE FALSE
112314676 64882966 Harry Haff Prescott. AZ Stated more accurately: These whites mentioned in the article are attempting to deny others the rights they have long enjoyed. This can be seen in everything from voting rights to mortgage rates. 1617727537 265 1 FALSE FALSE
112314606 33943375 MJ (Mountain Junky) Chicago Maybe it is just me, but while it is always nice to have hypothesis by hard data; this study strikes me a little akin to one confirming room temperature water is wet. 1617727369 11 2 FALSE FALSE
112314674 76884276 Carol Toronto

Surprising, said no one.

Economic anxiety was always a scam. I’m not denying its existence, just it as the driving motivation for many in Trump’s rabid base. Hopefully, the media is now finished visiting small town diners to interview these “very fine” people to see what makes them tick. We know. We’ve always known.
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112314543 67634468 peterlbailey NC It is true that “reparations” and such things will have costs. And costs scare people. But what are the costs of not fixing things that are wrong in America? And what of the benefits of fixing them? Imagine a world where we trusted and even liked all those around us as we realize we all have so much more in common than the imagine differences some fear? I am white, but I want a better world for my children. We should imagine this world and then create it. 1617727187 38 0 FALSE FALSE
112314627 65206908 Glen Sac Why would any of this related to the great recession? Responsibility of that clearly fell on the GOP by deregulating markets as well as their go to strategy of tax cuts. To me the answer to my Trumpers and January 6th has always been obvious. Irrational as well, but certainly obvious. 1617727429 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112314566 72898082 Antslovehoney Medford, MA

“The Capitol attack has historical echoes reaching back to before the Civil War.” This can be easily confirmed.

From Frederick Douglass’ Narrative (1845): “[Slave overseer Austin Gore] argued that if one slave refused to be corrected, and escaped with his life, the other slaves would soon copy the example; the result of which would be, the freedom of the slaves, and the enslavement of the whites.”

This zero-sum mentality has had many consequences in US history. It gave a veneer of “legitimacy” to the attack on the Capitol, not to mention legitimacy in dispatching any and all minorities threatening to take one’s place.

As others have observed, we cannot take the risk of letting January 6 become a “founding myth” in the legitimacy of the 21st century American far right. All guilty parties must be prosecuted to the fullest extent.
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112314614 68228306 linda5 New England Amazing how many of these men lived with there moms and were protected from real life. 1617727396 16 0 FALSE FALSE
112314478 54911125 DavidDecaturga Atlanta The US Congress passed legislation after the Civil War that was intended to rehabilitate Southern government after it waged war on the non-slave States. It’s time for new Reconstruction laws to rehabilitate Trump supporters and evangelical cultists who use hatred of ‘others’ to justify their hegemony. 1617727045 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112314616 28337523 Maria Dallas, PA I remember a similar analysis of Trump voters: they supported him not because of their economic circumstances, but because of their negativity towards minorities. Racism. 1617727399 24 0 FALSE FALSE
112314548 60816456 ARNP Des Moines, IA I guess even the black and brown insurrectionists of Jan. 6 found what they thought were allies in the mob. They shared a hostility to immigrants (and women) they view as a threat to their jobs and social standing. None of them seems to realize that the biggest threat to most Americans’ well-being is the takeover of our government and economy by the 1%. Those at the top are doing better than they ever dreamed possible. Their lives don’t remotely resemble the rest of ours. 1617727194 26 1 FALSE FALSE
112314435 63582179 sjs Bridgeport, CT Well, I’m white and I’m not concerned about being replaced. 1617726944 9 0 FALSE FALSE
112314463 16534575 Julie Tea vancouver At the end of the article where it’s categorized as political violence not criminal violence I have to wonder if racism is getting some kind of hall pass. What exactly does that mean? 1617727011 8 1 FALSE FALSE
112314470 49180543 Jim Merion Station

If you accept the premise of this article, the problem is exacerbated by the press’s support of identity politics and use of phrases such as “minority majority.”

Try to imagine a week where the NY Times does not write about what named racial, ethnic or religious groups “think” or “want” “or will do.” But then what would people read and be resentful and angry about?
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112313829 64672620 Chicago Guy Chicago, Il

I thought they were simply a bunch of racist toy-soldier losers, motivated to violence, by a failed con-artist who, driven by a desire to avoid jail terms for his decades of backstabbing criminal activity, convinced them that if the will of the majority of voters in this country was followed - that their world, this country, and our society, would end overnight.

And if it didn’t work out, which we all know it didn’t, they would all end up jail, while their “leader”, the one who started it all, sips Pina Colada’s, while getting a foot rub, next to the pool at his private golf resort down in sunny Florida - all on the tax payers dime.

I hope they all keep that image in their minds as the make license plates for the next 10 years, while being confined in a 6 by 6 concrete cell.

Yes. I hope they ALL remember what Donald Trump did for, and more importantly to them for the rest of their lives.
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112314499 71009561 Joel G Upstate NY Two comments on the article. First, the theory of the Great Replacement is not that minorities and immigrants are trying to replace white people. It is that Jewish elites are trying to replace European descendants in Europe and America (and elsewhere) with minorities and immigrants of color. That is why the marchers were shouting “Jews will not replace us.” This is white supremacy combined with antisemitism. The goal of the leaders of the right-wing extremist movement (which is global, not exclusively U.S.) is the creation of a white ethnostate. To get there they imagine creating a race war and expelling minorities. The other comment is that the article focuses too much on this as a U.S. problem, whereas it is really an international extremist movement. Many “ordinary” people are being drawn into it through a variety of means. 1617727098 28 0 FALSE FALSE
112313822 82763855 Steve Griffith Oakland, CA Your old road is rapidly agin’ Please get out of the new one If you can’t lend your hand For the times they are a-changin’ Bob Dylan 1617725249 14 0 FALSE FALSE
112314200 37475504 John Doe Johnstown Classifying people by race was the big mistake in the first place. I blame anthropologists for all of this. 1617726257 8 3 FALSE FALSE
112314201 36179796 Isle Washington, DC The irony of Mr. Pape’s study is that these folks are rebelling because of the lost of “non-Hispanics” but many Hispanics will claim that they are white. The rest of us see otherwise. Obviously, if Hispanics were, generally deemed white, then Pape’s study would demonstrate that these rioters see the influx of Hispanics into their communities as a white population increase. Trump picked up more Hispanics in 2020 than 2016, and alarmingly, some proudly align themselves with these rioters. For instance, the head of the Proud Boys is of Cuban descent. When will some of these Hispanics realize that these people do not want them to be part of the tribe? 1617726257 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112314335 118403463 Ames Olsen San Francisco

“…they will see a decline in their status in the future.”

Let’s call it as it is… “status” = entitlement
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112314690 44499492 Steve Seattle These far right white extremists need to consider how the Native American must have felt after the “Great Replacement” by their ancestors from Europe. What goes around comes around. 1617727571 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112314684 93299241 Bill-in- LA Los Angeles The writer left out one thing about the January 6th rioters . That they were just about all white and all trump supporter. No clash between right and left or white or black. This was a member’s only demonstration with no goal other than to riot and destroy the capital.
The more video of the raid on the Capitol building the more respect I have for the capitol police officers. Without their restraint it would of been even more ugly.
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112314688 14195106 Vin Nyc

I’ve always been struck by the irony of the white folks who afraid of being overtaken by nonwhite people - the fear stems because they feel they’ll be mistreated as a minority.

How on earth would they develop such a fear? Hmmm…I wonder.
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112314666 64857609 Jonathan Sanders New York City In other words, we have a White problem in this country. Its not new. It’s been with the country since its founding. This is just its latest incarnation. 1617727515 17 0 FALSE FALSE
112313997 65305059 Bob Portland There’s nothing new here. The Klan was formed after emancipation because of White fears about the Black majority in the South. That mindset has always driven racism in the US. 1617725731 12 0 FALSE FALSE
112313787 31625748 MSPWEHO West Hollywood, CA

Speaking as a 61 year old white man who grew up in a cloistered all-white suburb after his parents were 100 percent guilty of “white flight”–among those millions who fled the urban core city for fear of what black people were allegedly going to do to the neighborhood–I can say this with great authority: some white people are–if not entirely moronic or deplorable–pathetically underexposed to the real world.

My mother used to tell me to lock the doors of the car if we so much as saw a black person driving in another car. When she was accused of being a racist by a friend who’d lived in multiple countries and had friends of many races, my mother scoffed and insisted: “I am not a racist.” When my mother shared this conversation with me, I said “you fled the city because you feared blacks were moving in, you’ve never interacted with a black person in your life and fear their mere existence, you’ve used the”n" word in the presence of your grandchildren…it may not have dawned on you that you are a racist, but you are the very definition of a racist."

I would suspect that many of the rioters would insist that the racist label did not apply to them. Lack of enlightenment on a mass scale is what we are dealing with. Add to that, a vast population of poorly skilled and undereducated white folk who somewhere in their subconscious know they can’t compete with energetic, determined, impassioned immigrants.
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112313524 58818572 DonnaMac Belmont, MA

This is the demographic that is holding everyone in America hostage over their paranoid, gun fetish victimhood.

Biden’s policies will help these unvaccinated miscreants.

Let’s move forward without them, when Trump is indicted and bankrupted, they will shuffle towards the exit, or join us working towards a solution to the dumpster fire of the last four years.
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112314513 51183671 Andrew Colorado Springs, CO

Dear “Great Replacement”ers:

A brown person with the same level of training can do your job just as well as you can. So can a woman, in most cases. Jobs where women are naturally less represented are those requiring brute upper body strength, think pro football. Therefore, if your career field is not

-50% female -17% Hispanic -13% African-America

these groups are underrepresented in your career field. Got it? If the numbers are over 30% brown and over 50% female throughout all levels (entry level through upper management) of your chosen career field, you are suffering discrimination. If all the bosses are white and all the peons are brown, (or all the bosses men and all the peons women), you are not being discriminated against. If 80% of the bosses are brown and all the peons are white, you are being discriminated against.

Learn some basic math and apply it to the real world, please.
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112314371 57823451 J USA

I grew up in white bread America. Color me unsurprised. I don’t know why anyone needed to study this.

A recent visit back to where I grew up confirmed that it was still same old, same old. No one dare say something overtly racist out loud, as they are “Christians” after all – but you hear a lot of code words, like “illegals” and the use of “they/them/the others not like us”. It’s almost like there’s a TV network that keeps pushing this, and countless AM radio talk hosts who spew it every day.

Of course many of these people are of German, Italian, Irish, and Scottish descent, which somehow implies that everybody’s ethnic group has to go though a little of that good old “ethnic discrimination”, just like the time when grandpap got beaten with a shovel because he was an Irishman.
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112314487 78949093 Morgan Calgary, Alberta, Canada Fear of the level playing field. It also happened and happens to all women of all backgrounds. When you are used to deprivation and oppression, you expect less and work harder. These White guys have consistently ‘privileged’ themselves out the competition and they seem to keep wanting to continue to do so. 1617727067 26 0 FALSE FALSE
112313934 79833516 Sparky Morrison NewtownnPA I live in Bucks County Pennsylvania which is an affluent mostly white suburb just north of Philadelphia. Unfortunately 6 bus loads of Trump supporters went down to Washington DC for all three post election rallies. They were organized and instigated by a local gym owner that ran a People for Trump PAC from Newtown, and and a former far-right congressional candidate from Doylestown. They were very loud with their “Stop the Steal” big lie. In fact even before the rallies to Washington DC, the Gym owner kept organizing these massive drive-by truck rallies. They were embolden. Even today driving around my country you see see the Trump flags and political signs up along with the “Don’t Thread on Me” and “the Thin Blue Line” flags. And unfortunately these are the same people running around unmasked and refusing to comply with the Covid safety measures from our Governor so we still have sustained Covid here. 1617725571 58 1 FALSE FALSE
112314168 56683029 tinabess Brooklyn, NY I’m surprised that it is middle and upper-middle-class whites. Trump was all about the disenfranchised working-class whites. Aren’t they the ones who typically populated his rallies? 1617726172 127 20 TRUE FALSE
112314226 40405621 Benjamin Teral San Francisco, CA

Don’t dismiss those fears - that middle class whites will see a decline in their status in the future. That decline will be real, and they will experience it.

The “whiteness” part of that statement may be misleading. As the longest-entrenched ethnic group in the middle class in America, those white people may be responding to the threat to the middle class generally. Some (mostly Republican) politicians may see an opportunity to fan the racial flames for their own political advantage, but that fact can’t be used to obscure the fact that economic inequality more generally, is the main threat to the American polity.

Some Democratic politicians may be willing to join their Republican colleagues in downplaying that real economic pain, to fan the cultural and racial flames for their own political advantage.

I’m pinning my hopes on Joe Biden and his administration, to keep focussed on the economic issues.
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112314357 27475539 Marie BOSTON

It all rests on the binary thought that permeates conservative thinking. That is what opens the door. It requires an US or THEM approach.

If someone else is suffering less, that must mean you are suffering more.

If someone else succeeds, than you must be losing.

If someone wins, another must lose.

And when it’s not us, it must be feared.

To them people are always either/or. Either white, or not. Either conservative, or not. Either rich, or not. Ether male, or not.

There are no ranges, no continuums, no nuance, or complexities. When it is only one or the other then it must come down to US vs THEM. Every time.
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112314358 76849973 John Jersey People whose way of life is threatened get desperate when there is nothing and no one coming to the rescue. This is true no matter the race or gender, because we experience and navigate life as individuals, much more than as a demographic. 1617726732 6 1 FALSE FALSE
112314387 68802622 Jeff Cosloy Portland, OR The inclusion of White Hispanics as a minority skews our perception of race. Many in that category lean conservative. Many in that cohort do not identify as a minority at all. Without this cohort it would be impossible to claim the quickly rising cohort of minorities vs anglos as a game-changer coming upon the latter fast and hard. 1617726815 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112314349 6985115 Bucketomeat The Zone The right wing noise machine has had a 40 head start to nurture the grievances of nervous whites since the Fairness Doctrine was canceled during the Reagan administration. Fixing this quickly won’t happen by politely casting a ballot and will require an initiative on the scale of the Manhattan Project. Efficiently deprogramming 74 million people will require herding them into centralized facilities operated by specially trained personnel. Are we prepared to do what is necessary 1617726704 4 2 FALSE FALSE
112314381 63220965 JR CA Other than a massive display of anger, what did these people hope to accomplish? That everyone they don’t like would pack up and move? That the country would return to the 1950s where each family had 1 job, 2 cars, and a job pumping gas paid enough to cover a small mortgage? For some of us those were good times (except for polio and nuclear war) but there aren’t enough guns in the world to bring them back. 1617726802 36 0 FALSE FALSE
112313383 10085159 Karl W Albitz Pittsburgh, Pa I’ve always believed that people who hate blacks, Hispanics, and other minorities have had very few experiences with members of those minorities. If they had, they’d know that most minority members are truly good people. This is especially a problem for white police officers whose only experiences with minority members involves an arrest. 1617724099 21 0 FALSE FALSE
112313343 49931599 Alison Putnam NY Hmmmm, protesting for inclusion vs. protesting for exclusion. That about sums it up. 1617723998 14 0 FALSE FALSE
112313737 65413214 Gordon Schneemann Vancouver, BC Indeed, it appears some people need to be replaced. 1617725023 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112313872 79807644 Myrasgrandotter Puget Sound Now Mr. Pape needs to tie his findings to fundamentalist white supremist churches to see a larger structure of the underpinnings for this evolving political violence.
Social and cultural race supremacy tied to a contorted theology is a reconstruction of the pre-civil war south, spread to the entire nation.
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112314221 73539559 Lucy Cooke California

“Mr. Pape, whose career had mostly been focused on international terrorism, used that approach after the Sept. 11 attacks when he created a database of suicide bombers from around the world. His research led to a remarkable discovery: Most of the bombers were secular, not religious, and had killed themselves not out of zealotry, but rather in response to military occupations.”

And the US response to terrorism has been more military occupations… and the NYT and the entire Establishment kept telling us “suckers” that those Muslim extremists hated us for our freedoms. No wonder, so many have so little trust in the government, the Establishment and its media.

The obliviousness of the Democratic and Republican Establishment and their usual self interested stupidity has created the US immigration problem.

Foreign born population in the US was 9.6 million in 1970, and 41.3 million in 2013, <a href=“https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2015/09/28/chapter-5-u-s-foreign-born-population-trends” target="_blank">https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2015/09/28/chapter-5-u-s-foreign-born-population-trends</a>/ That was a HUGE change in US demographics. Immigrants/refugees did take American jobs and lower wages, despite Democratic Party mythology to the contrary. I know Trump voters who intensely dislike the flood of illegal immigrants, but like and respect individual immigrants.

Cheap labor made a lot of Democrats and Republicans wealthy, so illegal immigration was tolerated, while the middle class got poorer.

Biden’s bold, Sanders inspired policies may calm the anger and lessen the despair.
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112314289 47074079 samuelclemons New York If Demographics are destiny and they feel left out the only remedy for them is either voter suppression or the path they’ve chosen: rioting and insurrection. They need re-education and not with right wing propaganda. That said, right wing hate groups have always espoused more violence than that of the left in this country. (with certain exceptions like the weathermen in the 1960’s). 1617726506 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112313625 61284004 Kohl Reese New York Let’s now do a study of the people who rioted last summer … and did billions of dollars of property damage … 1617724730 13 3 FALSE FALSE
112314047 10329685 vandalfan north idaho Yes, it is our middle and upper middle class, not the impoverished, that are threatened by newcomers, because they know in their hearts they do not have what it takes to compete. They are little schoolyard bullies enabled only by their Daddy’s money and connections. They are the country club, social climbing type who dream of a Mar A Largo lifestyle where there are the elite and all others are their obsequious servants. I cannot see Eric Trump or Hunter Biden struggling through community college and then running a local dry cleaner. 1617725856 5 1 FALSE FALSE
112314230 11824949 Innocent Bystander Highland Park, IL White paranoia stoked by irresponsible rightwing media, which has also had an outsized role in promoting science-denial, looney conspiracy theories and all manner of trumpist fabrications. That, dear friends, is the problem in a nutshell. 1617726350 8 0 FALSE FALSE
112313825 100084392 pk Florida America is changing culturally with mixed race couples, mixed race children, must-cultural neighborhoods and work places.
When you hurt or kill one person of color or a different culture - you probably are hurting someone who is white who is a spouse, Grand Parent, brother or sister-n-law. co-worker or friend. Watching the Trump insurrectionist’s on Jan 6, was about as ugly and disgusting as it gets. It’s not an America most of us want. It’s important for Trump to be held accountable for insurrection, and the deaths that occurred. He incited the violence, why is he walking free? Will there ever be justice?
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112313860 65432155 Paul Nelson St. Paul We have toxic masculinity. Now we have toxic whiteness. It seems new but it isn’t new: Tulsa 1921 and all the similar race riots had the same elements – majority fear of minority achievement. “Take our country back.” “Make America great again.” White people (I’m one of them) need to relax; there is nothing to fear. 1617725376 10 0 FALSE FALSE
112313431 91769972 Gregory Paul Los Angeles

This is what happens when we use race rather than class as our primary analytical lens. Government economic policies, which in truth ARE based on class, because legally they must be, are rhetorically presented as race-based policies, and we’re surprised that poor white people think they’re being left out? Oh, and then liberal elites preach DOWN to the poor, saying “how dare you worry so much about your poverty - you may be poor, but you’re still privileged.”

No one - White, Black, Hispanic, Asian - wants to be told that their race is the most important thing about them, particularly in the face of economic need that transcends race. We have over-corrected in our use of the racial lens, and must allow class to re-gain equal oxygen in the government and media rhetoric.
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112314239 66623409 Durham MD South Remember when the media tried to sell us on all the Trump support wasn’t racism, it was all economic anxiety? A reminder to never let yourself be gaslit. If you see it in front of you, it’s there. 1617726360 133 1 FALSE FALSE
112314195 8848095 Observer The Alleghenies Another example of what Isabelle Wilkerson wrote about in “Caste.” Perceived, or feared, loss of status. 1617726243 19 0 FALSE FALSE
112313593 1658894 Bill Camarda Ramsey, NJ

Some white people, especially white males, think they can compete and thrive in a diverse world. Many others think they can’t.

Obviously, immigration and race are the enormous elephants in the room. Everyone has a story about a roofer who can’t get work because undocumented migrants are doing those jobs. But there’s also the issue that soft skills traditionally associated with women are increasingly privileged in the modern economy. There’s the goal of brilliant AI researchers and billionaire investors to put 4,000,000+ professional drivers out of work by automating vehicles. There’s the fundamental insecurity that goes with knowing if you lose a job, you lose your healthcare. It all mixes together in one toxic sludge.

What Trump supporters don’t see is: the people they vote for hold them in even greater contempt than the people they hate.
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112313745 45162038 convince me California

The United States is not justing “moving toward a minority majority” population. In some areas of the country it has already reached that proportion. I recently read that the population of Los Angeles is 73 percent nonwhite and California has been majority nonwhite for years.

People opposed to this demographic change will just have to accept it. Insurrection cannot turn back the clock.
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112314125 90899334 K.M California Accepting difference involves use of the rational mind, and a desire to learn about a difference; our whole democracy was founded on the basis that we can learn to accept each others’ differences, learn from them and embrace them. We need to start in elementary school, assisting children to not just be placed in the vicinity of those who differ, but learn about difference, and learn that lives will be enriched rather than threatened by embracing friendships with those of varied backgrounds, colors and ideas. Without this education and exposure, the preference of many will remain prejudiced against those who are different. 1617726073 11 0 FALSE FALSE
112313813 11685531 John Roosevelt NYC

This is a bit of a stretch.

We would have to interview each and every one of these people and do background checks and check social media and interview their family and friends and only then could we draw conclusions as to what motivated each of them.
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112313326 65502816 BJ Michigan Please provide data from the study. Sounds like correlation, which doesn’t prove causation. Peer reviewed? 1617723973 12 3 FALSE FALSE
112313442 86346177 Clabe NYC the comments thus far have agreed with the author, but have not commented on the author’s suggestions that we need to find a solution. It’s easy to find blame but not easy to suggest our next steps, which the author claims won’t come from law enforcement. 1617724268 9 1 FALSE FALSE
112313607 59321884 Pschlage Santa Barbara, CA Alan–Thank you for reporting this data. Before you can deal with an issue you need to know what is really the happening. 1617724687 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112313712 64835244 Tom Nelson Minneapolis, MN Very concerning. How can a century of - at times - progressive change, expanded economic opportunity (for many NOT ALL), education and social mobility be discounted by this resurgent band of Know-Nothings? 1617724950 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112314007 33224006 Barrld Los Angeles, CA The unanswered question in this study, one that may have beyond its primary focus, is what the insurrectionists hoped to actually gain with their attack on the Capitol. Amongst those indicted so far are a number of relatively educated people–did they truly believe that the rabble could actually overturn the election through violence against Congress? It’s hard to fathom how even the most passionate MAGAt expected anything other than arrest and prosecution when order was restored. 1617725767 17 4 FALSE FALSE
112313457 22611171 SM Pine Brook, NJ Great article. I have no doubt that the election of Pres. Obama in 2008 and 2012 led to the election of Trump in 2016. The fear of the Great Replacement is very real with many people and they worry about it in both social and financial ways. So, in the end, what we have are two groups of whites: Those who accept that the country is changing and think it is for the better; and those who deny those changes and want to go back to the past where white people ruled the roost. This is not going to end well, especially as more Republicans rise up and stoke the fires. 1617724305 39 2 FALSE FALSE
112313295 46314207 Nick Brooklyn

It’s not surprising at all to see that fear is driving much of the decisions behind those who participated in the insurrection at the Capitol.

Trump, and by extension the modern Republican Party and outlets like Fox News, have made it their standard operating procedure to tap into that fear to motivate voters, push their agenda, and of course - sell things.

In my view, this slow but consistent boiling of white resentment towards minority or immigrant populations is largely driven by wealth inequality - poor whites could hold onto the notion that even though they were poor, at least they were white and that (in their minds) translated to some advantage in life. With that perceived advantage being reduced with rising immigrant populations they feel fear, anger and a loss of control over their future.

Until we tackle income and wealth inequality in this nation, it will continue to drive racial and ethnic disparity. You cannot separate the two.
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112313376 83218918 FerCry’nTears EVERYWHERE While I think this article is interesting I do not find it to be ground breaking. I have always thought there is a large group of people who could never admit the Confederacy lost the Civil War. This is just more of the same 1617724090 25 0 FALSE FALSE
112313643 78368695 James Fear California The loss of status that many white people feel has been very obvious since Trump used it to become President. The scariest part of the article is “we really still are at the beginning stages” The best solution is to bring back good paying jobs to these declining areas that can support a middle class lifestyle. Joe Biden knows this innately, but actually accomplishing it will be very challenging in a global economy. 1617724772 18 2 FALSE FALSE
112313731 50650074 Gowan McAvity White Plains A mob usually consists of a small core of those that plan to incite other attendees of a mass rally into violent action. The dynamics that takes place where an otherwise non-violent citizen turns into an individual motivated to do immediate violence against perceived oppressors is complicated. It usually requires a single charismatic voice that unites them into concerted action at the proper moment. The spark, as it were, to get the mob moving and then the core violent planners may direct that anger against the target of choice or opportunity. In this case, the President provided the venue, the spark and the target of choice while the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers then fulfilled their fantasies of direct action against the politically victorious Democrats controlling the Congress. It will take more than the prosecution of the ring leaders and those that actually participated in the insurrection to deter other normally non-violent citizens from again resorting to violence as a legitimate political act. It will also take the delegitimization of the ultimate source of those violent intentions and organizations, Mr. Trump himself. While this will not be accomplished not in the courtroom, but in the court of public opinion, it will go a long way for the public to be convinced that he is not the savior of anything when he is exposed in court as a cheat and fraud, as well as the instigator in chief of the Insurrection of 2021. Let the hearings begin and the truth be told. 1617725015 3 1 FALSE FALSE
112313757 90520604 BB8 Seattle I came to the conclusion long ago that the “Browning of America” is what was behind many white people’s decision to vote for Trump. Most disturbing is that many of these people believe that there needs to be a concerted effort to “control” the ethnic makeup of America in what is often framed as “Culture Wars”. Fear of becoming a minority is strong amongst many white people, and maybe justifiably so when considering the way minorities have been treated in American history. But nobody gets to choose the color of America, because no matter what the majority ethnicity is - it will always remain America just the same. 1617725072 9 0 FALSE FALSE
112314020 65256487 Kathy Lollock Santa Rosa, CA There are several reasons why I advocate for and support people of color: the first, of course, being it is moral and just, and the fact that a person’s skin color does not make him or her less worthy of dignity or less entitled to security, health, and sustainable livelihoods. The second is much more personal. My grandparents, both paternal and maternal, were among the thousands of mainly Southern Italian and Sicilian immigrants to America during the turn of the 20th Century. At that time, they were considered “people of color,” dirty, inhuman, and Papists to add fuel to the fire. They had a tough go of it, up until my generation of Baby Boomers. The final consideration is that I live in California, where many of our citizens are of Hispanic backgrounds, particularly Mexican. For heaven’s sake, these folks are not trying to “steal” a way of life from us “Whites.” On the contrary, they contribute to our society in countless ways, are our neighbors, acquaintances, friends. If only other cities and towns could have the opportunity that we have here. How different life would and could be. 1617725786 63 0 FALSE FALSE
112313591 19744678 Nunzio Russo Sciacca, Italy In other words being white equals automatic opportunity. What happened to the mantra of personal responsibility espoused by the Republican Party. If immigrants can manage to achieve the American dream with limited resources, I’m sure white Americans no matter their economic situation can achieve the same. 1617724640 19 0 FALSE FALSE
112313665 17720779 Gorg California

Why are the populations of those communities declining though? I’d like to actually see some of these numbers, instead of an opinion piece about an opinion piece, but what does the economic mix look like, crime rates, community decay, opiate addictions, ect?

Journalism used to ask the real questions, now they look for surface reason to paint people they disagree with as morally abhorrent and thus in need of exclusion.
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112313823 60741395 Djt Norcal

There are small parts of the economy where merit can be measured in a way that removes the bias of the measuring stick.

But the vast, vast majority of the jobs in the country are based on hiring people from within the smallest circle of concern that you can get away with.

If whites run the local government, schools, businesses, whites can be sure that when their needs and the needs of non-whites are equal or conflict, skin color implied kinship ties will advantage whites. And this is clearly the case. Whites worry that when those schools and government and businesses are run by non-whites, those people will put their fingers on the scale to advantage their families, friends, and yes, national kinship ties.

This isn’t unique to whites. It is a characteristic of having power. As a person that rolls in the merit class, I’m not concerned for myself really. These people are concerned for themselves and their kin. I am somewhat concerned for my kids since they don’t seem destined to inhabit the merit class. They will be depending on kinship, or implied kinship.
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112313362 1562254 John Hays Washington, DC It’s not too surprising, but it’s nice to get the validation in a study, thanks. 1617724053 7 0 FALSE FALSE
112313555 38816970 Diogenes Belmont MA There are other variables that should also be taken into account: the lower economic growth rate over the past 25 years; widening income inequality; the inability of white working class people to secure middle-class jobs and purchase homes in middle-class neighborhoods. 1617724554 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112313351 788867 Occupy Government Oakland

“If all of this is really rooted in the politics of social change, then we have to realize that it’s not going to be solved — or solved alone — by law enforcement agencies.”

But that’s a good place to start. Whatever the societal implications of the racial divide, we can’t tolerate violence or voter intimidation.
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112313774 53464430 Phillip Canada The irony of “conservatives” is they are suppose to be for capitalism and free-markets, so they should welcome the competition within labor markets, competition for power and a meritocracy. They should welcome opening the borders to created the largest and most competitive labor markets and everyone gets a chance to compete. However, the reality is they are not for competition or a meritocracy within society at all, particularly if you are non-white. It is all about race and always has been. White males are losing their power and they are fighting back in the only way they know: violence or fixing the vote. 1617725129 12 0 FALSE FALSE
112313925 67298210 Jeff S. Huntington Woods, MI

Fellow white folks…it’s not pie. Non-white people finally getting (closer to) the rights we take for granted doesn’t take anything away from you, kind of like when we legalised marriage for all.

In fact, we all do better, lead happier lives, when we all do well. That “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” we proclaim underpins our country is stronger the more of us can pursue those things equally.
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112313993 48530252 Kent NC It would be interesting to also look at the Representatives for these countries and examine their positions on issues affecting minorities and rhetoric on the election. My guess is that they do little to dampen trump’s racist views. 1617725722 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112314134 54342779 Joe S. California

I’m a white guy and I simply don’t understand what motivates white racism, or what it is these folks feel they are “losing out” on.

Economic power? In America today, wealth is hyper-concentrated in the hands of very few — the 0.1 percenters. Race has very little to do with it: if you’re not mega-rich, you’re not mega-rich. But as far as the small slice of the pie that normal people share goes, we all do better when the economy moves forward, and right now the Democrats are the only ones with an economic plan that moves us all forward.

“Cultural issues?” Personally I’ve never felt threatened by living in a mixed, diverse society. It just means there are a wider variety of people and experiences to learn from and enjoy. And since we live in a secular society with a robust constitutional process, it’s not like paranoid fantasies of sharia law, etc can actually occur.

Do they just hate people because if the color of their skin or the sound of their language(s)? That doesn’t make sense either. No one is taking anything away from you: all they want is to take part in the same great nation, a society that succeeds when it expands, but stagnates when we think small.

United we stand, divided we fall.
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112313303 77699784 Tommy Texas This explains the entire Trump movement and the modern GOP. It is all about preventing demographic and cultural change, motivated by racism, nativism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia. The issues that animate the GOP base the most are immigration, abortion, and other culture war issues. There’s a reason Biden has had a successful start to his term- he doesn’t rile up Trump supporters like President Obama, AOC, or other people of color do. 1617723892 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112313316 5734979 Marc Boston A heavily armed police presence in these towns will be needed. Make sure the locals are harassed for minor infractions like j-walking and broken taillights. Hefty fines will teach them about good government. Cut back on services like schools, health care, clean water and sewage treatment. Open landfills and incinerators are well located here. And make sure there are obstacles to voting. It’s the American Way! 1617723949 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112313459 87127640 DoctorRPP Florida

Our marketing department is looking for someone with Mr. Pape’s skills to teach our self-promotion class……these two paragraphs could fit in the slang dictionary for “a stretch:”

"Mr. Pape, whose career had mostly been focused on international terrorism, used that approach after the Sept. 11 attacks when he created a database of suicide bombers from around the world. His research led to a remarkable discovery: Most of the bombers were secular, not religious, and had killed themselves not out of zealotry, but rather in response to military occupations.

American officials eventually used the findings to persuade some Sunnis in Iraq to break with their religious allies and join the United States in a nationalist movement known as the Anbar Awakening."
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112313687 145809747 Lin Philadelphia Not surprising since they have been screaming about “political correctness “ and liberals for so long. Illegal immigration is a problem that will trouble whatever party is in charge. The reasons for wanting do come here no matter how dangerous are too complex. Trump’s solution was crazy and showed incompetency. Good luck to Biden. At least he understands the problems and the law. 1617724896 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112313647 40942713 Bob Virginia A little demographic research will show that whites represented almost 60 percent of the US population in 2020. As the percentage declines to, say, 49 percent in coming decades, whites will still be by far the largest group in our multi-ethnic multi-racial nation. We are a nation of African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian-Americans, Native Americans, Pacific Islander Americans, European-Americans, and others, not to mention our offspring blending together. America could be a model for the world in all sorts of people getting along together. Why not try for that? 1617724782 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112314126 76119996 CC San Francisco

American culture has taught most of us that life is a zero-sum game, and politicians have exploited this for ages. I am reminded of this “cautionary tale” I heard:

A rich man, a poor man, and an immigrant are sitting at a table. The rich man has 99 cookies, the poor man has 1, and the immigrant has 0. The rich man says to the poor man: “Hey, just so you know – watch out for that immigrant. He’s going to try and take your cookie.”
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112313394 75215278 Alan Columbus OH Can this really be separated from economic decay? College-educated or otherwise advantaged White people tend to move to a few wealthier regions and face fewer obstacles to staying there, leaving behind many place with a disproportionate mix of everyone else. 1617724132 5 3 FALSE FALSE
112313604 1506197 music observer nj This is big news? That the Trump led GOP is about , to paraphrase an old rap song’s title “Fear of a non white US”. The GOP’s base, that is so fervently pro trump, with their talk of ‘taking back OUR country" and talking about, not jobs or healthcare or wanting better education for their kids, is all about “saving OUR country”, and it doesn’t take a genius to ask the question, ’From what?“. Every code word the GOP and its base uses, talking about”radical liberals" and “radical socialism”, how ’religious liberty", and all the rest you hear every day on Fox News, is basically a paen to a past where the country wasn’t diverse, wasn’t so secular, wasn’t so, well, dominated by ’them’ (lgbt people, blacks, hispanics, asians, feminists, etc). They look around and realize that Idaho and Montana and Iowa and all the bastions of small town white America in other places, like the south, don’t represent the country, that whatever their beliefs are, their feelings on things, they don’t represent most of the country, and it scares them. The GOP has been playing on this fear for decades, rather than build a big tent, they have made a party based around white, working class fear, that they are now the real minority. They aren’t even looking back to the 1950’s, they are looking back to the 1850’s when white, rural america was the country. One mistake liberals make is assuming this is about economics, opiod addiction, it isn’t, it is losing ‘their’ country, where they rule. 1617724677 5 0 FALSE FALSE
112313675 66842229 Jason La Jolla, ca Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History of the U.S” should be required reading in all schools. Racism is ingrained in our society. The powers that be have always encouraged it as a means to keep the poor whites thinking that they are at least better than people of color. God forbid if poor folks of all colors found common cause. The gig would be up. There are many examples of of whites demanding that their black fellow humans be treated equally. The whites in power put kibosh on that ASAP. 1617724869 6 0 FALSE FALSE
112313714 7946263 Son Of Liberty nyc What Democrats refuses to admit is that a significant part of the American public were not taught the values inherent in the United States constitution when they were growing up. The insurrectionists only turned to a fascism because they didn’t learn the devastation that men like to Donald Trump caused in the 20th Century. If it wasn’t for the pandemic Donald Trump would still be our president. 1617724956 4 0 FALSE FALSE
112313744 157270907 Avi Das Beaumont California This should be no surprise. As someone who lives in a small town and as the white population decreases and more people of color move in the amount of extremists has grown. There has been a rise in people showing off confederate imagery, white nationalist propaganda, and a rise in homophobia. With this in mind I think this going to happen more in small towns like mine. The sad thing is that I personally think nothing can be done about it at a certain point. These people eventually become lost and can’t get any help. 1617725042 3 0 FALSE FALSE
112313752 53830972 The Miln NorCal

Reading this is like reading one of those items where somebody has conducted scientific research to discover that Monday is people’s least favorite day of the week. Well, yeah. Didn’t everyone already know that?

It’s been pretty obvious for at least four years that white nationalism is what’s driving the Trump phenomenon. And if white nationalism isn’t white supremacy, it’s the closest thing to it.

This is why Trump supporters can’t be persuaded by logical arguments or factual evidence. It’s why, despite his disgusting personal behavior, gross incompetence, and flagrant corruption, his supporters never waver. It’s not rational. It’s tribal. They see themselves, and Trump, as defending a racial hierarchy that puts white Christians at the top of the totem pole and sees all others as second class citizens, at best.

Didn’t we already know this?
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112313867 76795622 Ben Oregon Simply put, these folks have a fear of people who do not look like them. Let’s be real here: This is a demographic analysis that describes where racist people most likely originate. Yes, racism is a political motivation. So let’s not beat around the bush here…and call it political racism. This analysis is weakened when it’s not using the correct term. The conversation needs to be had at all levels, from the kitchen table to the halls of justice, explaining that this fear is truly born out of racism, intentional and overt or not intentional and ignorant. It’s an ugly term and nobody wants to throw it around in all-white circles, but this is the work that needs to be done. 1617725393 2 0 FALSE FALSE
112314229 79185470 Kris N Maryland

It’s all about economic security and political power. Used to be that simply belonging to a certain tribe got you both. US economy was growing and had few competitors after WW2 and ‘offered’ that environment. But things have changed rapidly since the ’70s when other societies got on the capitalism-consumerism gig. And things became competitive..and no more was just belonging to a tribe a ticket to economic security and political power. Here we are….

Provide economic security or at least a hope for that, then we’ll have solved half the problem. The other half - driven by cultural and heritage feelings, will have to start at dinner tables of the tribe, and will take a couple of generations to form a more perfect union.
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112314119 82993564 Curtis Hinsley Sedona, AZ Nothing like confirming the obvious. 1617726051 14 0 FALSE FALSE
112314078 67780436 Dan Lafayette

“(The insurrectionists) are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.”

Hmmm… perhaps these poor souls are just too shiftless or complacent to make it alongside competent non whites. It is hardly a good rationale for them to commit treason.
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112313967 63480519 Jaybird Delco File this one under that old chestnut, “No kiddin, Sherlock.” 1617725659 18 0 FALSE FALSE
112314131 65673264 Tara MI I had to do a double-take of the headlines. You could have knocked me over with a feather. It was like reading this: “German-speakers in Czechoslovakia most likely to support Annexation by Reich”. 1617726081 16 0 FALSE FALSE
112314092 80693095 A Richmond I live in a rural area with little to no diversity. Anyone diverse would be nuts to move here. Another thing these people are afraid of - being usurped by ethnic minorities who will work 20 times harder than the white guys. 1617725967 300 0 FALSE FALSE
112313413 7322295 Justin Seattle

So the president who said that Mexico was sending rapists, that saw good people on both sides of a Neo-Nazi rally, and that banned Muslims from coming into the country was appealing to racists? And the guy with the Camp Auschwitz t-shirt was a racist?

Who ’da thunk it?

The revelation for me is that these were largely middle and upper middle class people. The most coddled and protected people on the planet.

Their actions demonstrate that they have been privileged, that they know they have had privilege, and that they’re afraid of life without that privilege.

They don’t want to live like the rest of us.
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112313978 83071056 Mike Tennessee. White flight turns into white riots. Tale as old as colonialism. 1617725685 47 0 FALSE FALSE
112313723 76059416 John Jones California The racism and prejudice has always been just under the surface. Trump made it acceptable and mainstream. The thoughts about race used to be discussed in living rooms and among close knit social groups. Trump and social media changed that, you can now find like minded people as close as your keyboard… 1617724993 174 3 FALSE FALSE
112313292 69043885 Therese New Rochelle, NY

Just looking at crowds at the Trump rallies, it was quite obvious.

Some of my white brethren think that anytime a non-white person makes political, social or economic gains, they are going to somehow lose something, I guess power.

It’s not the 1950’s anymore, you have to change with the times.
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112313390 439379 DGC_NH NH Guilt. The fear that others will mistreat you as you’ve mistreated them. 1617724110 437 2 FALSE FALSE
112313669 88569174 Scott Ohio The most important fact the Republicans hide from this group of scared white people: As more people become full participants in the economy, the economy grows bigger for everyone. No one is going to steal your piece of the pie, and most likely your piece will get bigger. 1617724843 167 4 FALSE FALSE
112313695 63607957 re Seattle Add this to the reporting that many of the insurrectionists had experienced financial difficulties. 1617724917 35 1 FALSE FALSE
112313748 13729439 Marc Joseph KC MO His research was published in the Post, and not a scholarly journal? 1617725048 6 4 FALSE FALSE
112313497 70567451 Willo330 Silver Spring, MD This is simply American history repeating itself around white fear of losing “control” and exploiting racists policies again and again. It’s the fear of the “them.” 1617724413 24 0 FALSE FALSE
112313510 64672620 Chicago Guy Chicago, Il

“Fears of White People Losing Out”?

There is another, less polite, but much more accurate,and far uglier term for this opinion.
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112313569 57556769 Taz NYC

Reagan’s repeal of the Fairness Doctrine is to a great degree responsible for this fix.

Disaffected whites obtain all their information from the conservative echo chamber, and repeatedly hear only one false, auto-reinforcing side of the narrative: American life is a zero-sum game; if minorities win, whites lose.
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112313589 54357050 Joe B. Center City If 1000 people entered the Capitol illegally, why have only 370 been charged? 1617724634 206 5 FALSE FALSE
112313680 15800631 Kevin C. Oregon You bet they’re running scared. Afraid that the formerly oppressed ‘other’ citizens might take from the self annointed ‘real’ Americans what was kept from them via discrimination for so long. 1617724878 18 4 FALSE FALSE
112313793 31397801 Georg Witke Orlando, FL Why is Trump not tried for Treason? 1617725178 370 2 FALSE FALSE
112313336 20360532 South Slo Brooklyn Racism is the glue that binds Republicans together. 1617723985 673 2 FALSE FALSE
112313553 108085015 Sk Detroit It takes a fool to pick a fight against reality. Reality being changing demographics. 1617724552 17 0 FALSE FALSE
112313568 48376006 H. Clark Long Island, NY If these insurrectionists aren’t happy living in a multicultural, heterogeneous society, they are free to leave this country. Getting dressed up in mommy’s fur stole and parading around the Capitol in a Fred Flintstone outfit is a pretty lame stunt. Get lost! 1617724587 198 4 FALSE FALSE
112313780 77636898 Z in TX Austin, TX But remember, folks — it’s not about white supremacy. 1617725149 14 0 FALSE FALSE
112313786 63877091 Locho New York

Perhaps the actual study addresses this question, but I don’t see any evidence mentioned in this article beyond correlation: Certain people who did X live in counties experiencing Y, thus people did X because of Y.

That logic seems very solid when it confirms our preconceptions. The hypothesis might well be true, but we still need more evidence.
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112313197 59229961 Lisa NYC No kidding. Next ‘news story’? 1617723645 72 3 FALSE FALSE
112313146 20857878 HistoryRhymes NJ Not surprising at all. It is the GOP most powerful message! Why do you think Trump got elected in the wake of Obama? 1617723513 646 4 FALSE FALSE